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OT: American Politics

leafman101 said:
Yep. I mean the Court could always, and has, reversed decisions that were incorrectly decided. Although in the past that has typically been to expand rights, not shrink them. But the process here is crazy. You can strategically use the Supreme Court to attack constitutional rights based on ideology, rather than the law itself. Talk about undermining the integrity of the court. It means nothing now.
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To be fair - the reasoning in r v w is fairly weak. It’s a privacy decision.

the legislature has had 50 years to act and failed.
 
Quite a lot of people who believe the leak came from conservatives to lock the five justices into their votes. Also pointing to the immediate reaction all appearing to be coordinated/in lockstep calling it an “insurrection”.
 
yeah that verbiage seemed highly calculated. unbelievable how they use language to completely brainwash the MAGA group.
 
hockeylover said:
Quite a lot of people who believe the leak came from conservatives to lock the five justices into their votes. Also pointing to the immediate reaction all appearing to be coordinated/in lockstep calling it an “insurrection”.
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they were always locked in.
 
Agreed. Think there’s some pretty compelling arguments in threads by former Republicans and former SCOTUS clerks that the leak wasn’t even a liberal though.
 
hockeylover said:
Quite a lot of people who believe the leak came from conservatives to lock the five justices into their votes. Also pointing to the immediate reaction all appearing to be coordinated/in lockstep calling it an “insurrection”.
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So hard to judge this. I could also see it coming from a liberal who saw the writing on the wall and leaked this as a last ditch effort to put pressure on the judges. These judges can always say, this was a draft, votes change often till the last minute, and that they had a lot of deliberation to do etc.

Fact is that this is a law supported by as much as 80% of the population. There are some Senators who have voiced their displeasure as well. It's easier to change your vote if there is enough outrage.
 
It makes so furious when I hear these pundits saying: oh if you don't want the baby, if you can't afford it, if you are in danger, etc. "Just move".

I mean taking public transportation from Markham to downtown would cost a poor lady, her first hour of pay....move out of state? Unbelievable.
 
LeafGm said:
Just some random thoughts on what happens from here.

If you live in a state where abortion is legally considered murder and you travel to a legal state to get an abortion, is there anything to stop your home state from charging you with murder when you get back (if they find out, of course)?

How long until some deep red state makes it a capital offense to obtain or provide an abortion?

What does one of these red states do if they catch a pregnant woman trying to obtain an abortion? Do they start setting up specialized for-profit internment camps where women are kept under lock & key until they’re forced to carry the pregnancy to term?

How much of a direct hand will religious organizations be given in all this? Do evangelical and/or Catholic organizations start setting & up and operating state-approved modern versions of the Magdalene laundries?

The horrifying dystopian ways this all can and will go are kind of endless.
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Based on the Idaho law? No... and AFAIK no state has a statute of limitations on murder..
Hell EVEN VISITING those states could be enough for them to imprison you.. (and Try you potentially)

I personally think it runs afoul of the Full Faith and Credit Clause but that didn't' stop Gay marriage resistance.

Also regarding the leak not the first or last time.. Sorry Republicans you act like this is the FIRST time it has ever happened..
 
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