OT: Coronavirus Resources - and other things to not worry about
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axlsalinger
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I mean the fact that his own daughter and her husband appear to be militant antireality-antivaxxers (along with a lot of his base), I have to cut the guy some slack. As we saw with President Narcissist, acknowledging reality and listening to experts is not a given, especially in this timeline. Better late than never is a thing.
axlsalinger
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Just have to say, this is a PHENOMENAL episode. It's worth listening for everyone here too, despite the fact that we already know a lot of the history of covid and the vaccines, what happened & why.No paywall for this episode. Long, but good.
Sam Harris | #270 - What Have We Learned from the Pandemic?
Sam Harris speaks with Nicholas Christakis about the lessons of the COVID pandemic.www.samharris.org
But if you know someone that is confused or misinformed about anything covid-related, this is a treasure trove of #RealTalk. We'd be in much better shape if we could just get everyone to listen to this with an open mind.
Making Sense Podcast Episode # 270
UWHabs
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The whole rapid test vs PCR is a big issue that I don't know what the best way to handle it is. It's still weird that Canada is one of the only countries in the world to require a PCR test to return, whereas almost every other nation accepts both (which given the cost and ease of testing I would imagine leads to mostly being rapid tests for admission).
Although given the ease of tests, the other part of me doesn't understand why we don't include a free rapid test with every PCR test. Like, I can imagine a million cases where you might want to know if you have covid or not, but also care whether you are really at risk of spreading it.
mbow30
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Also — not like pcr was able to stop coldmicron.
Wayward DP
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Except they do. And other jurisdictions have shown us how you can manage the virus and maintain some sense of normalcy. Our politicians just chose not to follow the science/their lead.
Not equally, because the responses matter. Some countries have done a much better job dealing with the virus than others. Pretending that we're all fucked no matter what we do is an abdication of responsibility.
The fatigue is real. And the lack of global coordination on vaccination is biting us in the ass collectively, sure. But the science exists and is clear as to what you can do to mitigate risk and it is silly not to do those things when lives are on the line.
Quite literally, people die because of the poor decisions of politicians. This is why we are pissed - because us sitting at home looking at the data can see what is coming and what needs to be done to stop it and Dougie is sitting on his ass hemming and hawing and making shit up.
Preston
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Encouraging for Team "It's Closer to OG Covid
Severity". Also worth noting that there is gonna be a LOT of reinfections (folks who got the covids 2, 3, 4+ times) everywhere and those are more likely to be more mild. As far as I'm concerned that's equally good news if that's the main driver. Our problem is our capacity and that hasn't changed. It's not good and has only gotten worse since our January wave. It needs to be unrealistically more mild for them to not be tremendously overwhelmed in the next month or two.
We have some solid lab data now showing why it could be feasibly less severe so it's no longer as much of a fantasy for me at least. Some theories do state that based on how this variant attacks the system it could be more difficult for children or those with asthma so that will be worth watching.
If it's an illness that is more severe than the flu but less severe than delta that's all we can hope for at this stage. Not a breeze but less risk individually.
Severity". Also worth noting that there is gonna be a LOT of reinfections (folks who got the covids 2, 3, 4+ times) everywhere and those are more likely to be more mild. As far as I'm concerned that's equally good news if that's the main driver. Our problem is our capacity and that hasn't changed. It's not good and has only gotten worse since our January wave. It needs to be unrealistically more mild for them to not be tremendously overwhelmed in the next month or two.
We have some solid lab data now showing why it could be feasibly less severe so it's no longer as much of a fantasy for me at least. Some theories do state that based on how this variant attacks the system it could be more difficult for children or those with asthma so that will be worth watching.
If it's an illness that is more severe than the flu but less severe than delta that's all we can hope for at this stage. Not a breeze but less risk individually.
