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OT: Coronavirus Resources - and other things to not worry about

Would you agree Presto that most people who are still out and about should probably not try to galaxy brain it for convenient timing? Sounds like you might have the ability to hunker down a bit more.
 
hockeylover said:
Would you agree Presto that most people who are still out and about should probably not try to galaxy brain it for convenient timing? Sounds like you might have the ability to hunker down a bit more.
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100%. If you're out and about get it ASAP. IF we REALLY need another dose in 3-4 months we will likely follow the data and roll out doses again this spring. And soon enough we're probably going to have doses rolled out specific to the omicron variant and retain effectiveness to 90+% levels. That will come either by spring or summer.

Neither myself individually nor the province as a whole benefits much from someone like me getting vaxxed right now. I think other people need it more than me so I'm not as keen on jumping through hoops to jump the line.
 
My main message: with Delta I was planning on assuming invincibility post-booster because effectiveness is to the moon. With omicron I'm probably gonna assume I'm not vaxxed at all. Especially with this kinda transmission.. A lot of boosted folks are still high risk of catching it. But of course, it's all about personal risk tolerance.. Just don't assume invincibility is all.
 
Preston said:
Another dataset showing 50-70% less likely to be hospitalized: https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...ooster-jabs-waning-for-some-says-ukhsa-125030

Similar results to everywhere really and can still be explained mostly by prior immunity/vaccines blunting the severity.

And the bit I was worried about (and reason I'm not rushing to get boosted):





So if our starting point is ~70% effectiveness, we're looking at somewhere in the 50's after 2 and a half months. Seems in line with rate of waning on 2 doses, though we're starting at a much lower level on omicron here. Israel going for dose #4 makes all the more sense.
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Wave will be over quick at these infection rates. I don't think there is any advantage to riding out the peak of the wave with non boosted immunity so that you can boost later and have improved immunity for when this is over in mid feb
 
MindzEye said:
Wave will be over quick at these infection rates. I don't think there is any advantage to riding out the peak of the wave with non boosted immunity so that you can boost later and have improved immunity for when this is over in mid feb
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My plan, boosted or not, has always been to spend time outdoors only during this wave. If I was out and about then yeah I'd want my booster asap. I'd be a little less hesitant about going into public spaces if it wasn't for the kiddo but I hunkered down during these months pre-pandemic in the past really.. Really hope they approve vaccines for the 2-4 age group asap... Seems like Q2 2022 is the target.
 
Preston said:
Another dataset showing 50-70% less likely to be hospitalized: https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...ooster-jabs-waning-for-some-says-ukhsa-125030

Similar results to everywhere really and can still be explained mostly by prior immunity/vaccines blunting the severity.

And the bit I was worried about (and reason I'm not rushing to get boosted):





So if our starting point is ~70% effectiveness, we're looking at somewhere in the 50's after 2 and a half months. Seems in line with rate of waning on 2 doses, though we're starting at a much lower level on omicron here. Israel going for dose #4 makes all the more sense.
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at least you'll be relatively delta-proof
 
MindzEye said:
Wave will be over quick at these infection rates. I don't think there is any advantage to riding out the peak of the wave with non boosted immunity so that you can boost later and have improved immunity for when this is over in mid feb
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honestly for me the boosters are almost irrelevant to omicron cause they seem to offer little lasting immunity. but delta is still out there and they are damn helpful for that.
 
Here's what it looks like. Seems like Pfizer and Moderna boosters are fairly interchangeable. Moderna MAY outperform by a very little bit but it looks negligable.
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And for the report today on severity.. Used similar methods as SA and Scotland. So no, omicron is likely not that much more mild.

 
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Good news here. We need to put Delta to sleep please. Boosting will help. I think it's the main factor right now in England causing Delta to shrink.. Delta attack rate is still quite high in kids. Its niche is finding immunonaive people. Omicron attacks everyone.

 
trujaysfan said:
Had a friend say "we will have 10k cases after christmas"... I responded that we already likely have 15-20k cases a day
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Considering testing lag and all of the rest of the factors that consistently lead to under estimating infection count, you might not be that far off.
 
Was supposed to get together for New Years with two other couples (and all rapid test) but I'm kinda thinking at the rate this is going might be better just to stay in.

Sucks.
 
Another friend:

came down with symptoms of a bad cold on Monday night (congestion, headache).

Mild Fever and chills Tuesday morning

since Tuesday afternoon, cold symptoms only.
 
I'm still gonna do Christmas with the family. Worth the risk for me and my parents really want it so I'm gonna go ahead and do it with the whole rapid test thing as well; 10 people total so nothing crazy. My parents are boosted but if one of us are positive they're still gonna catch it. Boosters will work better against lower exposure situations.

From my knowledge my family does not know mbow so it's unlikely they'll be positive anyway.
 
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