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OT: Coronavirus Resources - and other things to not worry about

This is the point I don't think our society hasn't priced in yet.

Why Asia’s New Coronavirus Controls Should Worry the World! "Any country’s success with containment could be tenuous, and the world could remain on a kind of indefinite lockdown."

"Even when the number of new cases starts to fall, travel barriers and bans in many places may persist until a vaccine or treatment is found. The risk otherwise is that the infection could be reintroduced inside their borders, especially given the prevalence of asymptomatic people who might unknowingly carry the virus with them.'

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/world/asia/coronavirus-china-hong-kong-singapore-south-korea.html
 
CH1 said:
This is the point I don't think our society hasn't priced in yet.

Why Asia’s New Coronavirus Controls Should Worry the World! "Any country’s success with containment could be tenuous, and the world could remain on a kind of indefinite lockdown."

"Even when the number of new cases starts to fall, travel barriers and bans in many places may persist until a vaccine or treatment is found. The risk otherwise is that the infection could be reintroduced inside their borders, especially given the prevalence of asymptomatic people who might unknowingly carry the virus with them.'

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/world/asia/coronavirus-china-hong-kong-singapore-south-korea.html
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And then there's the next virus. And the next one.
 
CH1 said:
This is the point I don't think our society hasn't priced in yet.

Why Asia’s New Coronavirus Controls Should Worry the World! "Any country’s success with containment could be tenuous, and the world could remain on a kind of indefinite lockdown."

"Even when the number of new cases starts to fall, travel barriers and bans in many places may persist until a vaccine or treatment is found. The risk otherwise is that the infection could be reintroduced inside their borders, especially given the prevalence of asymptomatic people who might unknowingly carry the virus with them.'

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/world/asia/coronavirus-china-hong-kong-singapore-south-korea.html
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A bunch of societal behaviours need to change and the Asians were ahead of us by a decade or so. Masks are just going to be a thing from now on. Riding the train during flu season (which is like 4 months) wear a mask. Fuck shaking your hand, etc, etc.

Because yeah, until there is a vaccine (and anti virals for immunocompromised people who can't get the vaccine) and some sort of herd immunity shows up, this is something to be managed, not defeated. It really feels like the majority of society is waiting for the day that the public health people stand up and tell us the danger is over and we can go back to normal life. There needs to be a new normal or we're just waiting for this (or something else) to come back.

The upshot is that a bunch of people and companies who have never given this kind of stuff a second thought are going to open up the money cannon at finding novel solutions. Anti bacterial/viral treatments for public surfaces, improved PPE (both functionally and stylishly I'd imagine), etc.
 
Ya ya I know Tucker but the point still stands, many virologists agree that these wet markets are an incubator for cross species viruses. No Bueno.

 
Yeah, I'm cautiously optimistic.

But there are too many wide eyed folks out there who think the economy and the market are going to rebound 100% after a social distancing break.
 
peterattiamd.com

#102 - Michael Osterholm, Ph.D.: COVID-19—Lessons learned, challenges ahead, and reasons for optimism and concern - Peter Attia

"We're seeing an increased number of severe illnesses and deaths in people between the ages of 25 and 50...and the risk factor appears to be obesity." —Michael Osterholm
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We discuss:
  • Recapping the brief history of COVID-19 and what potentially lies ahead [2:15];
  • Some positive news about immunity and reinfection [10:45];
  • Case fatality rate—the challenge in finding the true rate, difference by country, and the impact of age, underlying conditions, and obesity [13:00];
  • What has to be true for less than 100,000 Americans to die from COVID-19? [24:30];
  • How do we best protect healthcare workers? [29:45];
  • Concerns about testing capability—reagent shortfall and a supply chain problem [39:30];
  • Vaccines and antivirals—The outlook, timing, and challenges [47:45];
  • Long term health of survivors of COVID-19 [56:45];
  • The impact of comorbidities—Diabetes, obesity, and immunosuppressed patients [59:30];
  • Understanding R0 and how the disease spreads [1:01:30];
  • The challenge of forecasting with so many unknowns [1:08:00];
  • What explains the difference in cases and fatalities in different parts of the world? [1:14:30];
  • Repurposed drugs/antivirals being considered for treatment options—any optimism? [1:16:45];
  • A parting message from Michael about what lies ahead [1:18:30]; and
  • More.
 
Habsy said:
Ya ya I know Tucker but the point still stands, many virologists agree that these wet markets are an incubator for cross species viruses. No Bueno.

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Great argument for government regulation over the free market right there.
 
Habsy said:
Ya ya I know Tucker but the point still stands, many virologists agree that these wet markets are an incubator for cross species viruses. No Bueno.

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Also china ain't the only country that has wet markets and eats bush meat.
 
I expect China to exterminate those wet markets, seeing it's in their best economic interests to do so.

If they ignore the problem, big companies like Apple will relocate their supply chains to other countries.
 
I'd love Mexico to be the beneficiary of supply chain movement. So would Trump fans, as it would mean less immigrant flow.

Ironically, it would make immigration less of an issue, so it might take away a hot button motivator to vote GOP.
 
CH1 said:
I expect China to exterminate those wet markets, seeing it's in their best economic interests to do so.

If they ignore the problem, big companies like Apple will relocate their supply chains to other countries.
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I mean they still need markets. They cant just exterminate them.
 
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