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OT: Coronavirus Resources - and other things to not worry about

Preston said:

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I'm no antivaxxer but I think I'm done with the OG vaccine as a fella who is not old or at risk. Covid is 100% omicron right now. The more you boost, the more your immune response is imprinted to the wildtype virus. Time to shift products, ideally to a more variant-proof vaccine but if they're gonna make any vaccine available in the next few months it should be catered to the current variant.
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Preston said:
How has your recovery gone? I know you mentioned you had some issues shortly after your infection cleared. Hope all is well now.
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It was about a month and a half with lingering brain fog and fatigue. Also lack of sweating with heavy workouts and high heart rates that took much longer to recover from than pre infection. Thankfully that’s in the last and I’m back to full throttle. Thanks for asking!
 
hockeylover said:
I’m in the PATH daily and I only really see a handful of people without masks. Maybe bc it’s during morning rush hour?
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On that topic. I was in Vancouver on the weekend and that City apparently hates masks. Almost no workers were even wearing masks. Was shocked to see that Edmonton is more pro mask than Vancouver.
 
Vaccines are great and all, but we really need cures for this bloody virus and I suspect, with all the strange and varying symptoms resulting from long covid, that this is much farther away than I had originally hoped.

I still don't know what happened with that nasal cure from Canada (SaNOtize) that was accepted in Israel and India but for some reason, here, it's been delayed.
 
AP79 said:
Vaccines are great and all, but we really need cures for this bloody virus
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Ehhhh....

A good vaccine is better than a cure. It doesn't require you to get sick first. Our current issue is that we need better vaccines, covid out maneuvered our first offering at a solution.

Yeah, a good treatment protocol would be great, but that's secondary to preventatives.
 
AP79 said:
Vaccines are great and all, but we really need cures for this bloody virus and I suspect, with all the strange and varying symptoms resulting from long covid, that this is much farther away than I had originally hoped.

I still don't know what happened with that nasal cure from Canada (SaNOtize) that was accepted in Israel and India but for some reason, here, it's been delayed.
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It's not really proven to be a cure. Don't be fooled by their vague press releases. The only thing we know is that it reduces viral load in the nasal passages, but that doesn't say anything about a reduction in disease severity. So that 99% effective headline is a bit ridiculous.
 
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MindzEye said:
Ehhhh....

A good vaccine is better than a cure. It doesn't require you to get sick first. Our current issue is that we need better vaccines, covid out maneuvered our first offering at a solution.

Yeah, a good treatment protocol would be great, but that's secondary to preventatives.
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I think we need both vaccines and treatments.

Vaccines to minimize and prevent transmission. Treatment to fill the gaps where vaccines cannot, and help all the folks who already have long covid.
 
MindzEye said:
Ehhhh....

A good vaccine is better than a cure. It doesn't require you to get sick first. Our current issue is that we need better vaccines, covid out maneuvered our first offering at a solution.

Yeah, a good treatment protocol would be great, but that's secondary to preventatives.
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I agree when you are in a pandemic, this is the way to go, but if you ever want to exit the pandemic, you need to have a treatment IMHO.
 
Problem with the treatment bit is that post viral illness has been around forever and was extremely common after the original SARS in the early 2000s. The longterm effects from SARS survivors is eerily similar to covid survivors. Many are still disabled to this day, many died from complications. They were in smaller numbers, gaslit by their doctors who claim they just have anxiety or it's in their head, etc. etc. Much the same as we see today but unfortunately when all of this is said and done the number of people suffering will be far too high to ignore anymore. Significant research is gonna have to go into this and hopefully they come up with something. It's not gonna be easy tho since we don't even know the mechanism.

Treatment for acute infections are already here and more are coming. It seems to be a fairly straight forward target so hopefully we can all have something to take with minimal side effects when infected to not only decrease the risks of death but also further decrease long covid prevalence. Better vaccines could help too.

There's a trial going in the summer for one particular long covid treatment that looks encouraging that specifically targets autoimmunity (which is one of the leading theories as the main mechanism behind long covid). Nice video here: https://www.dw.com/en/tracking-long-covid-in-the-blood/av-60658430

Nothing else appears to be even close so it's either this or we've gotta wait a lot longer. The other stuff could improve symptoms but prolly ain't getting to the root of the issue.
 
The guys where I work who were out with Covid are back now. 6 Days off and now back to work and they all sound like death warmed over. I fully expect to have it by the weekend. :oops:
 
Ivermectin only works well if you take it with 9000cc of vit-d. This is Kinda like those bullshit hydroxy RC studies that didn’t control for combining with zinc and azythromicin.
 
Brothers wedding officially was a superspreader event (obviously.. 150 people crammed in a hall during a covid surge means there is an above 50% chance that someone is infectious there). Dad is positive, my other brother positive and several other attendees positive as well.

Brother felt a headache and stomach issues Monday, tested negative every day till he finally tested positive today. Dad felt a little tired (he's got all sorts of issues so he probably wouldn't have noticed symptoms earlier) and tested once he heard about my brother and was positive. I'm symptomless and feeling fine so maybe I escaped it.
 
Preston said:
Brothers wedding officially was a superspreader event (obviously.. 150 people crammed in a hall during a covid surge means there is an above 50% chance that someone is infectious there). Dad is positive, my other brother positive and several other attendees positive as well.

Brother felt a headache and stomach issues Monday, tested negative every day till he finally tested positive today. Dad felt a little tired (he's got all sorts of issues so he probably wouldn't have noticed symptoms earlier) and tested once he heard about my brother and was positive. I'm symptomless and feeling fine so maybe I escaped it.
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this really sucks. hope baby presto is spared.

so, if I'm reading this right, your brother who is already suffering from long delta covid now has an acute covid (likely omicron) infection on top? or is this another brother? either way, super shitty.

I also remember commentary about unvaxxed in-laws attending in hordes... did this occur?
 
Wayward DP said:
this really sucks. hope baby presto is spared.

so, if I'm reading this right, your brother who is already suffering from long delta covid now has an acute covid (likely omicron) infection on top? or is this another brother? either way, super shitty.

I also remember commentary about unvaxxed in-laws attending in hordes... did this occur?
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It's my other brother who has long covid, the groom. He appears to have been spared maybe? He just tested negative and doesn't feel anything different from his long covid shit. 5 days since the wedding so you'd think my mom, other brother or myself would feel something by now. With Omicron it usually only takes 2-3 days. But we shall see.

So on their invitation they had a vax requirement some (mostly on the brides side, but some of my brothers friends too) responded by calling them nazis and swearing them off forever. They could not enforce the vax mandate legally but they did not come anyway. The one hardcore antivaxxer that they invited at the last minute is the brides mother. The same chick that said they wouldn't take their child in once they drop dead from the vaccine. The bride couldn't help herself... Hoping she catches it and suffers horribly obviously. Death would be good, but a crippling disease that destroys her life sounds better.
 
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