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OT: Coronavirus Resources - and other things to not worry about

Anyways the range of symptoms with omicron makes no fucking sense. Hopefully You folks / your families get it as mild as me and leafman.
 
My work situation is interesting. Guys are dropping out one at a time now. Then they come back and they leave again because one of the kids has it. They come back again and leave again because the wife now has it. Then again as the other kid has it. So far the only people not infected are the old F#$%s like me...and the unvaxxed guys. :rolleyes: If you have kids...you're doomed. o_O:) Yeah, still worried though. :oops:
 
This decision to make "pretending the pandemic is over" official government policy may go down as one of the worst decisions ever.

I get most of the points and don't disagree with many, and sure everyone is sick of this virus (literally or figuratively!), but removing masks from public spaces is just amazing for its sheer stupidity. Right when there's a brand new more contagious wave.

I am finding it hard not to judge everyone without a mask right now. Congratulations, you're a moron!
 
Have to admit I like the “what COVID” phase of the pandemic way more than the “hide your kids, hide your wife” phase. But the side effect was getting COVID.
 
I'm still on #TeamTryToLimitInfections if you can until science figures out how to either curb spread or have an early (or late) treatment that all but squashes the risk of long covid. I know I'm not gonna die with this shit. If it was just about deaths I'd ignore covid too. It's the longterm shit that makes me cautious and if you're younger you have more to lose.


Actually it was pretty funny. At the wedding there were 4-5 people with masks, all in their 30s. Plenty of old fucks were there and they're all in zero fucks given mode. They lived a long life, they're probably not gonna die from covid and there's no such thing as "longterm" symptoms when you're already that old. They'll gladly take the 5-15% chance of LC for some good times while they're still alive.
 
Do we have any idea what the current death, hospitalization and long covid rates are? Seems like it settled in around 0.7% for death, and maybe 10% for severe cases, but the last time I saw actual data was quite some time ago. I wonder how much effect vaccines / previous infections / better treatments / mildicron have had.

I suppose it is harder to argue about the dangers these days since things seem to be better, though 0.7% is still a lot of death for a virus that spreads like a forest fire. 10% hospitalized, 10% long covid also seem pretty high. But if it's like 70-90% asymptomatic to medium flu, it does become a tougher argument to make.
 
axlsalinger said:
Do we have any idea what the current death, hospitalization and long covid rates are? Seems like it settled in around 0.7% for death, and maybe 10% for severe cases, but the last time I saw actual data was quite some time ago. I wonder how much effect vaccines / previous infections / better treatments / mildicron have had.

I suppose it is harder to argue about the dangers these days since things seem to be better, though 0.7% is still a lot of death for a virus that spreads like a forest fire. 10% hospitalized, 10% long covid also seem pretty high. But if it's like 70-90% asymptomatic to medium flu, it does become a tougher argument to make.
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Death is probably closer to 0.05-0.15% in many parts of the world for actual estimated infections; it has become very manageable. Long covid is more of a mystery. Was super high for previous variants but long covid means long and omicron isn't quite at that point yet. I'm sure we'll get data soon enough. Same goes for the data that shows a substantial increase in risk of diabetes, heart issues, etc. with even mild infections. It's still covid so the risk is never gonna go to 0 but with omicron we don't know really.

I personally know of some people who haven't fully recovered from omicron (mentioned one that flew to Cyprus for some experimental treatment out of desperation) but it doesn't seem to be as high as the 30% estimates from prior variants and 10-15% for vaxxed folks based on my own anecdotal info. But if the risk of LC is let's say... 5% now and you live normally and get infected twice per year... We're not seeing prior infection help reduce severity at all on top of vax so that LC risk may be fixed at 5% per infection. That's ungood. But we don't know yet. So we'll have to wait. And when the data comes we'll probably be on our next variant.
 
One more thing .. the definition of long covid is vague as shit too. And it ranges in severity from a chronic cough to bedridden. Last I saw only around 1% are severely fucked up after about a year. Most common symptom overall seems to be chronic fatigue/brain fog which is annoying but that's different than some of the longhaulers who can't function at all. And even a symptom like that ranges in severity.
 
At the end of the day we probably should be thankful it isn't much worse, especially with some early indicators from Italy that it could be as high as 6% death rate.

The symptoms and severity have been all over the map since the start, but especially more so recently. People die yearly from things like flu too, so if it's that low it's gonna make it even harder to get another lockdown... Which is fine, but still plenty of brain fog, lung damage and shrinking brains to go around.
 
Maybe Putin actually did take the Sputnik vaccine instead of one of the real ones.

That’d explain why the man’s been terrified to let anyone within 20 feet of him for the past couple of years. Because he knows Sputnik is just made of cheap vodka and fermented beet juice.
 
This virus really is weird. My dad started feeling it Wednesday night and he feels nearly 100% this morning. He's unhealthy with all sorts of issues, and 70. My brother, fit, athlete, former OHL draft pick has been getting his ass kicked. He feels a bit better today but it wasn't a good ride.
 
@Wayward DP prolly rare but it happens. Hope Mrs. DP is feeling ok.



Plenty of other anecdotes in the thread plus some data out of Denmark showing that it's possible

Important to remember that og Omicron is as different to BA.2 as og covid vs beta. And beta was a super immune escape variant. If vaxxed/boosted it prolly decreases the chances of a reinfection but it's not impossible.
 
It’s also possible that the negative test in between was a false negative or they didn’t notice the positive line on the RAT (sometimes that like comes in VERY faintly).

testing + on a RAT weeks after infection isn’t uncommon.

that persons Twitter posts also look a bit… unstable
 
At the annual SEDMHA tournament this weekend. It's the biggest hockey tournament in Canada east of Montreal.

This was a super spreader event.

Not in the traditional ranks where there would only be two to four teams at a time. These four pad ice surfaces though were teaming with people who had nowhere else to be.

There were no masks..

My son and I are now isolating and waiting for the hit.
 
Plenty of confirmed reinfections from BA.1 and BA.2 in both the UK and Denmark. I mean all you have to do is look at the antibodies generated on omi infections. It's not quite the same as prior variants so you've either got OAS or less immunogeneticity in Omicron. Rare but not impossible and definitely more likely for unvaxxed folks and children (many of which do not generate detectable antibodies at all after infection). If boosted, you should be good for awhile though, though as evidenced by Denmark data nothing is a lock.
 
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