They did not die as a result of it but I like to employ a higher standard than "not dying" as a my benchmark for quality of health care rendered.
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They did not die as a result of it but I like to employ a higher standard than "not dying" as a my benchmark for quality of health care rendered.
I don't believe anyone with medically urgent and necessary issues waits an inordinate time in this country. Yes knee replacements will be bumped etc but if you have a tumour, heart issues, etc, you do not wait longer than you should in my view.
I wish we could get rid of all wait times, but that just is not going to happen.
be honest Krust, do you believe that the US system prior to Obamacare was better than the rest of the western world's one payer system?
It's less equitable than Canada's but yes I think it's "better" because quality of care to me is more important than an equitable/egalitarian distribution of it. But maybe that's just me.
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You really should move to Quebec for a reality check - actually, you probably shouldn't.
I'm sorry to hear that re your father. Like the old line about recessions vs a depression, it is a recession when everyone else loses a job, but a depression when you do, the wait times are not too long when others wait, but too long when you or someone you care about does. They never have affected me directly so I don't see them as too long. I wish we could find a way to get rid of all wait times.
that is a very American view of the world, if it is good for me, then who cares if the guy next door doesn't get his care
be thankful your wife has a good plan
GrandWazoo
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http://www.macleans.ca/politics/when-it-comes-to-waiting-canada-is-last-in-line-2/
I've found that we've come to accept our situation in Canada as normal when it's truly not. My first experience in the US was a real eye-opener for me of how the system could potentially perform.
Most of the issues I've found resolves around lack of resources. Not only we don't have enough doctors, but we simply don't have enough equipment. The time waiting to have a scan or an MRI is just crazy. Every single step of the way is about 3 weeks to 4 months. 3 weeks to see your physician, then 7 weeks to see your specialist, 3 months to have your MRI, another 6 weeks to meet with your specialist about your MRI, finally another 2 months to schedule your surgery. So that's like 36 weeks from the moment of your injury to your surgery. That's just insane.
You think I'm making those numbers up? That's actually pretty close to reality : http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uplo...earch/publications/waiting-your-turn-2013.pdf
I've found that we've come to accept our situation in Canada as normal when it's truly not. My first experience in the US was a real eye-opener for me of how the system could potentially perform.
Most of the issues I've found resolves around lack of resources. Not only we don't have enough doctors, but we simply don't have enough equipment. The time waiting to have a scan or an MRI is just crazy. Every single step of the way is about 3 weeks to 4 months. 3 weeks to see your physician, then 7 weeks to see your specialist, 3 months to have your MRI, another 6 weeks to meet with your specialist about your MRI, finally another 2 months to schedule your surgery. So that's like 36 weeks from the moment of your injury to your surgery. That's just insane.
You think I'm making those numbers up? That's actually pretty close to reality : http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uplo...earch/publications/waiting-your-turn-2013.pdf
GrandWazoo
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I'd rather that everyone has access to quality health care. Is it an option?
That's not what I said. You asked me if the U.S. system is better and yes, I think it's better because between the two systems, I prefer higher quality care to lesser quality care that is distributed in a more egalitarian manner.
"It's less equitable than Canada's but yes I think it's "better" because quality of care to me is more important than an equitable/egalitarian distribution of it. But maybe that's just me."
You answered that quality of care to me. I read that to mean as long you get it, you don't care about the rest of the population.
XPOFAN
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You are very negative towards your country of birth. It is not a good trait
But you also said doctors arent better.
GrandWazoo
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I agree as I found it easier to address accessibility than quality.
GrandWazoo
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It's not a matter of quality of doctor, it's a matter of quality of care.