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OT: The News Thread

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the "real world" being a government employee in suburban ottawa.
 
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so it looks like a shitkicker of an earthquake just nailed the impoverished 2+mil city of Port-au-Prince in Haiti.

if anyone can find any updates, post them here. so far - nothing.
 
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Tragic.

That is the most improverished place I've ever seen. Was there as a teenager and it completely altered my outlook.
 
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Sounds really bad ...

7.3 quake hits Haiti
Last Updated: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 | 7:20 PM ET
The Associated Press

A 7.3 magnitude earthquake hit Haiti on Tuesday.A 7.3 magnitude earthquake hit Haiti on Tuesday. (CBC)

The largest earthquake ever recorded in the area shook Haiti on Tuesday, collapsing a hospital where people screamed for help.

Other buildings also were damaged and scientists said they expected "substantial damage and casualties." With communications disrupted there were no reports of deaths or injuries soon after the quake, as powerful aftershocks shook the country.

The earthquake had a preliminary magnitude of 7.0 and was centred about 15 kilometres west of the capital of Port-au-Prince, the U.S. Geological Survey said.

It had a depth of eight kilometres. It was the largest quake recorded in the area, said USGS analyst Dale Grant, and the last major one since a magnitude-6.7 temblor in 1984.

An Associated Press videographer saw the wrecked hospital in Petionville, a hillside Port-au-Prince district that is home to many diplomats and wealthy Haitians. Elsewhere, a U.S. government official reported seeing houses that had tumbled into a ravine.

Haiti's ambassador to the U.S., Raymond Joseph, said from his Washington office that he spoke to President Rene Preval's chief of staff, Fritz Longchamp, just after the quake hit.

He said Longchamp told him that "buildings were crumbling right and left" near the national palace. He said he has not got through by phone to Haiti since.

Don Blakeman, an analyst at the USGS in Golden, Colo., said such a strong quake carried the potential for widespread damage.

"I think we are going to see substantial damage and casualties," he said. The quake was felt in the Dominican Republic, which shares a border with Haiti on the island of Hispaniola. Some panicked residents in the capital of Santo Domingo fled from their shaking homes.

In eastern Cuba, houses shook but no major damage was immediately reported.

"We felt it very strongly and I would say for a long time. We had time to evacuate," said Monsignor Dionisio Garcia, archbishop of Santiago.

In Haiti, the extent of the damage was unclear. "Everybody is just totally, totally freaked out and shaken," said Henry Bahn, a U.S. Department of Agriculture official visiting Haiti. "The sky is just gray with dust."

Bahn said he was walking to his hotel room when the ground began to shake. "I just held on and bounced across the wall," he said. "I just hear a tremendous amount of noise and shouting and screaming in the distance."

Bahn said there were rocks strewn about and he saw a ravine where several homes had stood: "It's just full of collapsed walls and rubble and barbed wire."

The U.S. National Weather Service issued a tsunami watch for Haiti, the Dominican Republic and the Bahamas, but said historically the region has seen few destructive tsunamis.

In Washington, U.S. President Barack Obama said on Tuesday that his "thoughts and prayers" were with the people of Haiti and pledged to come to their aid if needed.

"We are closely monitoring the situation and we stand ready to assist the people of Haiti," Obama said in a statement.

Felix Augustin, Haiti's consul general in New York, said he was concerned about everyone in Haiti, including his relatives.

"Communication is absolutely impossible," he said. "I've been trying to call my ministry and I cannot get through. … It's mind-boggling."
With files from The Associated Press
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/01/12/haiti-earthquake.html
 
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http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/01/12/haiti.earthquake/index.html

(CNN) -- A major earthquake struck southern Haiti on Tuesday, knocking down buildings and inflicting a catastrophe on the impoverished Caribbean nation, its ambassador to the United States said.

"The only thing I can do now is pray and hope for the best," the ambassador, Raymond Joseph, told CNN.

The magnitude 7.0 quake struck about 10 miles (15 kilometers) southwest of the Haitian capital Port-au-Prince shortly before 5 p.m. Joseph said he had little information about the extent of damage from the quake, but one government official -- the only one he was able to reach -- told him houses had crumbled "on the right side of the street and the left side of the street."

"He said it is a catastrophe of major proportions," Joseph said.
 
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no video of any kind. no live coverage.

this could be real bad.
 
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I just wonder if their lack of large buildings and the multitude of people living in virtual lean-tos might help keep the carnage down, even though all the buildings are collapsing.
 
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No, the weaker the infrastructure/building stock, the worse the damage/casualties. Large buildings rarely get toppled in quakes, although they are often damaged so badly they can't be repaired.

The Managua quake of 1972 basically leveled the city. This looks very similar in magnitude and depth. The infrastructure is also likely quite similar.
 
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yeah, it sounds like all the buildings are pretty much toast.
 
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It could be bad, just looking at some historical quakes and anything 6+ has huge death tolls. The combination of high pop and relative geological stability is going to be deadly. Aftershocks can last for years after an event like this, so you gotta be watchful of rescue efforts.....man, what a depressing event. Can these poor people catch a goddamn break?
 
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It's a pretty large population - 2.5 to 3 million.

This is likely going to see a ton of casualties. And the rescue infrastructure or lack thereof will probably result in many more beyond the immediate destruction.

There's going to have to be a massive mobilization of aid to prevent that.
 
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This might be the saddest comment of all, but I don't really see a difference between what I've seen of Port-au-Prince beforehand and what I see in those pics. The existing infrastructure is just so minimal to begin with.
 
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This might be the saddest comment of all, but I don't really see a difference between what I've seen of Port-au-Prince beforehand and what I see in those pics. The existing infrastructure is just so minimal to begin with.

Yeah that is one poor country.

I just read a report that so much dust was thrown up over the city that it was obscured for a good 20 minutes.....
 
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