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OT: The News Thread

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I'm not exactly a die-hard, but I won't go to Marineland...Whale Jail as I call it...it's a pretty crappy life for creatures who call an entire Ocean their home.
At the same time it's hard to raise general awareness without being able to show kids first hand. Tough call, but I'd just as soon see us find another way.
 
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Oh I know....I was thinking about the whole Zoo thing.
The Metro zoo is pretty good, but I was mind-wandering about how we are responsible for all these species being in trouble, and zoos may be the only place some of these creatures will still exist.
Wander a little farther about how ****ed up man is, but we are animals as well and survival of the fittest and I love me a good steak but I could not enjoy hunting...it's like being on shrooms.
 
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Maybe so beleafer, but while some of mankind was busy wiping out entire species, zoologists are busy preserving them.
Catch-22?

And we have about 700 acres up in Parry Sound backing onto 2000 acres of crown land so we see our share of wildlife.
Unfortunately in all that camping I've never seen an Elephant. I guess they hide better than the bears.
:smilewinkgrin:
 
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Zoos when most of us grew up were absolutely terrible - jail is an accurate description.

But modern zoos are a different story. They are mostly animals that were found severely injured and brought back to health...by that time they had either lost their natural inclinations or were at a risk to be re-introduced into the wild.

I went to an amazing zoo in California last September. It was the way zoo where we were in cages and the animals had massive amounts of space to wander. Sure it isn't the wild, but if it's a matter of either dying in the wild, or living in a comfy zoo and educating us humans, I think it's a fair trade off.

Also, there are always exceptions to the rules, but the zoo keepers and staff always seem to genuinely love the animals. They aren't there to collect a paycheck and beat the shit out of the animals.

Marineland is a slightly different story...keeping seals and dolphins, ect is fine, but killer whales...not a good idea.
 
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Zoos are not animal jails. Circus' are. Zoos are spas in comparison. Wanna see an elephant in Canada, go to a zoo. Wanna see an angry elephant crush a human being out of spite, go to a circus.
 
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Let me keep you locked in a 20x20 cage complete with spa treatment with people staring at you and taking pics of you all day. We'll see how you feel after a few days
 
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I have no issues with wild life reserves where the animals have acres of land to roam.
 
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Let me keep you locked in a 20x20 cage complete with spa treatment with people staring at you and taking pics of you all day. We'll see how you feel after a few days
Let me keep you locked in a 10x10 cage until the next performance, where I have to respond to my months of training to do stupid things just to get food, or else be whipped by some stupid little human peice of shit with a whip or metal prod. We'll see how you feel after a few days of that.
 
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These things thrived for hundreds of years in the wild until we came along.

I have no issues with wild life sanctuaries that provide rehebiliation to injured animals or try to save a species that is endangered due to poaching or clear cutting but what I do have a problem with is people exploting animals in zoos and circuses being forced to do tricks for food for the ammusment of people just to make a profit.
 
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If by "thrive" you mean spend their whole lives starving and chasing any last bit of food they can find, and constantly running away from things trying to eat them.
 
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But yet most animals that are listed as endangered or extinct were a direct cause of poaching and habitat loss
 
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no doubt.

But if we're talking about an animal's quality of life. well.....which one of us would go live naked in the wild if we had a choice?
 
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