Factinista
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Re: OT - The News Thread
More like lizardy.
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More like lizardy.
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OT: The News Thread
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corksens
Legend
Re: OT - The News Thread
Tell that to the shop owners with smashed windows.
And it's not faked, anarchists purposely set fire to squad cars. Perhaps the police intentionally left some cars in the street to see what the reaction would be, but in the end it was the rioters who set them ablaze.
Peaceful otherwise?
Tell that to the shop owners with smashed windows.
And it's not faked, anarchists purposely set fire to squad cars. Perhaps the police intentionally left some cars in the street to see what the reaction would be, but in the end it was the rioters who set them ablaze.
johnunit
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I think the police may have pulled back and let them light the squad car on fire so that people would be distracted by that and would rally around it. They know that if there's a cop car to kick and throw flammable stuff at, the anarchists will be all over it. So, at least in one case, they just gave them that and let them all congregate in one area on live television and started making notes of who to arrest later, while they boxed the area in and made sure no one escaped.
from a pure cost-to-the-city standpoint, if the people who burned the cop car and stomped on it and threw stuff in it (yes BL, there was more than one person) would have vandalized, say, 10 stores in the time they instead spent ruining a 25,000 dollar police car, the cost to the city might have been justified in the minds of some higher ups.
As for how quickly the fire started, the interior of a car is 99% flammable stuff, sit a flaming bag of whatever on the seat and the seat is probably gonna go up in flames. Once the seat goes, the headliner catches, and you're off to the races.
I think the police may have pulled back and let them light the squad car on fire so that people would be distracted by that and would rally around it. They know that if there's a cop car to kick and throw flammable stuff at, the anarchists will be all over it. So, at least in one case, they just gave them that and let them all congregate in one area on live television and started making notes of who to arrest later, while they boxed the area in and made sure no one escaped.
from a pure cost-to-the-city standpoint, if the people who burned the cop car and stomped on it and threw stuff in it (yes BL, there was more than one person) would have vandalized, say, 10 stores in the time they instead spent ruining a 25,000 dollar police car, the cost to the city might have been justified in the minds of some higher ups.
As for how quickly the fire started, the interior of a car is 99% flammable stuff, sit a flaming bag of whatever on the seat and the seat is probably gonna go up in flames. Once the seat goes, the headliner catches, and you're off to the races.
theREALkoreaboy
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Re: OT - The News Thread
here we go again. lefties making apologies for the barbaric actions of "protesters". first it was the "aid flotilla", and now this.
do you honestly think canadian authorities wanted the image of flaming cop cars surrounded by masked thugs to be transmitted around the world? to suggest this was "staged" by police is laughable. or maybe it isn't. it's laughable the first couple of times lefties try to make apologies for the barbaric actions of people like this, the 50th time, it just becomes ridiculous.
ALL of you who made apologies for the knife-and-stake-wielding flotilla people, and all of you now making apologies for these masked scumbags are a huge part of the problem and you share a huge part of the blame. they do the things they do because they know feebleminds like yourselves will always side with them and blame the israelis, the americans, the authorities, etc. etc.
YOU are part of the problem.
here we go again. lefties making apologies for the barbaric actions of "protesters". first it was the "aid flotilla", and now this.
do you honestly think canadian authorities wanted the image of flaming cop cars surrounded by masked thugs to be transmitted around the world? to suggest this was "staged" by police is laughable. or maybe it isn't. it's laughable the first couple of times lefties try to make apologies for the barbaric actions of people like this, the 50th time, it just becomes ridiculous.
ALL of you who made apologies for the knife-and-stake-wielding flotilla people, and all of you now making apologies for these masked scumbags are a huge part of the problem and you share a huge part of the blame. they do the things they do because they know feebleminds like yourselves will always side with them and blame the israelis, the americans, the authorities, etc. etc.
YOU are part of the problem.
theREALkoreaboy
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i think it is utterly reasonable for any society to expect that its citizens should obey basic and fundamental rules like:
-don't burn $hit down
-don't throw rocks through windows that don't belong to you
-don't rip up sidewalk bricks and toss them all over the place
-don't attack police officers
-don't loot
-don't cause riots
yes. by all means. people should obey those rules.
i think it is utterly reasonable for any society to expect that its citizens should obey basic and fundamental rules like:
-don't burn $hit down
-don't throw rocks through windows that don't belong to you
-don't rip up sidewalk bricks and toss them all over the place
-don't attack police officers
-don't loot
-don't cause riots
yes. by all means. people should obey those rules.
Factinista
Active member
Re: OT - The News Thread
I don't think anyone here is apologizing for the black blockers.
Just pointing out a few weird things that are due either to massive incompetence by the police, or something fishy.
I don't think anyone here is apologizing for the black blockers.
Just pointing out a few weird things that are due either to massive incompetence by the police, or something fishy.
johnunit
New member
Re: OT - The News Thread
Drawing parellels between the protesters here and the aid flotilla is ridiculous.
One was anarchists with a stated plan of causing damage facing off against the local police
The other was a group of aid workers with a stated plan of bringing food and building materials to a 3rd-world nation facing off against commandos in international waters.
Drawing parellels between the protesters here and the aid flotilla is ridiculous.
One was anarchists with a stated plan of causing damage facing off against the local police
The other was a group of aid workers with a stated plan of bringing food and building materials to a 3rd-world nation facing off against commandos in international waters.
theREALkoreaboy
New member
Re: OT - The News Thread
yes, people most certainly ARE "making apologies" for the scumbags when they suggest that the police were responsible for the burning cars.
just like they made apologies for the flotilla idiots when they said "all they were doing was bringing food to a 3rd world nation".
and the fact that the same people are making the same kinds of apologies demonstrates that there ARE parallels to be drawn between the two incidents and the people who supported them.
yes, people most certainly ARE "making apologies" for the scumbags when they suggest that the police were responsible for the burning cars.
just like they made apologies for the flotilla idiots when they said "all they were doing was bringing food to a 3rd world nation".
and the fact that the same people are making the same kinds of apologies demonstrates that there ARE parallels to be drawn between the two incidents and the people who supported them.
axlsalinger
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Re: OT - The News Thread
KB's Dream World:
KB's Dream World:
theREALkoreaboy
New member
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people who suggest that these scumbags are making a legitimate "statement" against some kind of totalitarian society are being purposely deceitful.
the alternative to what those people are doing isn't "submit", "conform", or "no thought". these people are scumbags who want anarchy. stupid, anti-social, pubescent narcissists who just want to cause mayhem and chaos while dressing it up as legitimate protest. there is nothing legitimate about what they are doing, and people who see a shred of legitimacy in what they are doing are, again, part of the problem.
people who suggest that these scumbags are making a legitimate "statement" against some kind of totalitarian society are being purposely deceitful.
the alternative to what those people are doing isn't "submit", "conform", or "no thought". these people are scumbags who want anarchy. stupid, anti-social, pubescent narcissists who just want to cause mayhem and chaos while dressing it up as legitimate protest. there is nothing legitimate about what they are doing, and people who see a shred of legitimacy in what they are doing are, again, part of the problem.
axlsalinger
Well-known member
Re: OT - The News Thread
In case you didn't notice (which is of course, entirely probable), no one here is defending the violent *******s who believe in anarchy.
In case you didn't notice (which is of course, entirely probable), no one here is defending the violent *******s who believe in anarchy.
Factinista
Active member
Re: OT - The News Thread
Urge to kill.... Rising.
Urge to kill.... Rising.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
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Because it has been a common tactic of police forces in the past to use agent provacateurs to escalate tensions at protests and provide police with the excuse to use force to disperse a crowd.
Oh, there were obvious political motives as work as well. After all the hand wringing "oh, they're terrorists, radicals" etc, etc do you not find it odd that Israel released every single one of them? Not a single arrest was made. Odd that Israel would release a boat full of terrorists.
Because it has been a common tactic of police forces in the past to use agent provacateurs to escalate tensions at protests and provide police with the excuse to use force to disperse a crowd.
Oh, there were obvious political motives as work as well. After all the hand wringing "oh, they're terrorists, radicals" etc, etc do you not find it odd that Israel released every single one of them? Not a single arrest was made. Odd that Israel would release a boat full of terrorists.
johnunit
New member
Re: OT - The News Thread
no one is saying the anarchists are making a legitimate statement. They're saying that the police actions against OTHER protestors and the situation in general are out of line.
I know your world is black and white, but it IS possible for both sides to be in the wrong.
no one is saying the anarchists are making a legitimate statement. They're saying that the police actions against OTHER protestors and the situation in general are out of line.
I know your world is black and white, but it IS possible for both sides to be in the wrong.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Re: OT - The News Thread
The anarchists are huge douchebags.
Anyone who abuses their right to civil unrest and protest is a huge douchebag.
With that said, any public official who uses devious tactics to incite violence out of protesters, deserves to be stripped of their job, pension, and be held civilly liable for any damages that occur.
The anarchists are huge douchebags.
Anyone who abuses their right to civil unrest and protest is a huge douchebag.
With that said, any public official who uses devious tactics to incite violence out of protesters, deserves to be stripped of their job, pension, and be held civilly liable for any damages that occur.
zeke
Well-known member
Re: OT - The News Thread
possible is an understatement.
both sides are usually wrong.
possible is an understatement.
both sides are usually wrong.
zeke
Well-known member
Re: OT - The News Thread
for the record, all the international reporters that I've seen interviewed have said that the protestors, both in number and in ferocity, are significantly less than is seen at other simlar international events, and the only difference they notice is the very poor job the police have done containing the disturbances.
for the record, all the international reporters that I've seen interviewed have said that the protestors, both in number and in ferocity, are significantly less than is seen at other simlar international events, and the only difference they notice is the very poor job the police have done containing the disturbances.