OT: The Official Toronto Raptors Thread
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Jeremy
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Actually, yes. Let him finish his career where it started.
Van Vleet? Mindz? Zeke? How good is this guy?
Eye only? Cause that is all I have in sports? This guy is a fuckin leader.
And quite a believer in himself. Bought a big time celebration for him to get drafted. Paid for the entire deal and didn't get drafted.
THAT, THAT is what you want in a guy, a player, someone who HATES to lose.
These Raps, wow. Still exciting. Van Vleet, Lowry, Siakim, Gasol, still a lotta shit to like on this team.
But of course, I still miss Kawhi, a lot. Damn that guy was/is great.
Eye only? Cause that is all I have in sports? This guy is a fuckin leader.
And quite a believer in himself. Bought a big time celebration for him to get drafted. Paid for the entire deal and didn't get drafted.
THAT, THAT is what you want in a guy, a player, someone who HATES to lose.
These Raps, wow. Still exciting. Van Vleet, Lowry, Siakim, Gasol, still a lotta shit to like on this team.
But of course, I still miss Kawhi, a lot. Damn that guy was/is great.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
FVV is pretty much the perfect "3rd option" for a contender. If he's your best player, you're a bad team. If he's your 2nd best player, you're a pretty good team. 3rd though? You're probably an elite team. Ice in his veins, not afraid of taking big shots. Good defender (has one of the highest pass deflection rates in the league, and with maybe a 6'2 wingspan, that's impressive as fuck).
I'm entirely good with a 4/80 type extension for him.
I'm entirely good with a 4/80 type extension for him.
zeke
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MindzEye
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I don't know about that man. I have a hard time putting him ahead of Lowry, Kemba, or Simmons at the PG. Middleton has been excellent in Milwaukee, Jimmy Buckets, Beal and Lavine I have a hard time blaming for being on junk teams.
Yeah, FVV isn't far from the quality of that group, but I don't see him in it.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
The Clippers without Kawhi and PG lost to Atlanta without Trey last night.
Let that sink in. Atlanta with Trey is the worst team in the league. Without Trey they're a G-League contender....and I'm kind of not kidding about that. Remove Trey and Atlanta has maybe 4 guys that belong in a NBA rotation, and they're bottom of the rotation guys. According to VORP (Value Over Replacement Player) they have 4 guys not named Trey that are better than replacement level. To put that in perspective, our 11th man according to VORP is Patrick McCaw and he would be 6th on the Hawks by VORP (including Trey). Their 2nd best player according to BPM would be our 11th best.
They're really, really bad....but they beat the supporting cast of what is supposed to be a title contender last night.
zeke
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eh, i think less of zero-D chuckers on awful teams than you do.
MindzEye
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Yeah, but you've always undervalued the difficulty in being a #1 option in an offence. It's funny that you're such a QoC whore in hockey (rightfully so), but that you throw it out the window when evaluating basketball players who teams design their entire defensive schemes around stopping.
If the Raptors were located in California, he would have resigned, no brainer.
But look at the guys house in California, its tasteful, huge and amazing.
As soon as I discovered he had a spread like that, I should have gone 7 figures in, on him NOT resigning, But the chicken feathers got to me.
I think he loved it here, a lot.
And I loved what he did for this city and franchise. I still watch that shot against Philly once a month. Still gives me goose bumps. Great times.
Still a ton of talent on this team. Ton of it. Might still be interesting come playoff time. But yeah, no Kawhi on the team, heck, there are only three or four Kawhi's out there.
And this coming from a guy who was an awful basketball player, and knows very little about it. LOL
But I love the Raptors, we actually have had some incredible basketball players play for us over the years. I loved Damon. VanVleet reminds me of him, quite a bit.
But look at the guys house in California, its tasteful, huge and amazing.
As soon as I discovered he had a spread like that, I should have gone 7 figures in, on him NOT resigning, But the chicken feathers got to me.
I think he loved it here, a lot.
And I loved what he did for this city and franchise. I still watch that shot against Philly once a month. Still gives me goose bumps. Great times.
Still a ton of talent on this team. Ton of it. Might still be interesting come playoff time. But yeah, no Kawhi on the team, heck, there are only three or four Kawhi's out there.
And this coming from a guy who was an awful basketball player, and knows very little about it. LOL
But I love the Raptors, we actually have had some incredible basketball players play for us over the years. I loved Damon. VanVleet reminds me of him, quite a bit.
zeke
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