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OT: The Official Toronto Raptors Thread

Yeah. That's what makes his career arc such a disappoint.

Yeah, previous 1sts who turned out busty like Bennett were 1st by default in bad drafts. Wiggins was supposed to be the franchise piece at the top of a pretty good draft.

Who knew that he basically didn't like basketball? The guys has managed to be a 20+ point scorer in the NBA without ever really showing any commitment to the game over an extended period of time. Speaks to how much wasted potential was there.
 
Yeah, he was drawing some "6'7 version of Durant" comparisons before the draft, some TMac stuff.

Just a waste. Huge physical gifts.

The sad part is that Wiggy had a face to face meeting with the owner discussing his commitment level of handing him a max deal
 
I like Davis quite a bit but he does some dumb shit out there

Yeah, that was an ugly sequence for him. Tried to force a bad pass through a seam that wasn't there, then a pretty brain dead mental lapse to get his check wide open in transition for the 3.

The kid is out there trying to make plays though and more often than not makes a difference, so fuck it, he's a rookie doing rookie things.
 
Kawhi turning it up on Miami.

they hold to that 16pt lead and we move into a tie for 2nd. Tho the heat have the tiebreak locked in.

But with more games left than them b4 the cutoff, if we take care of business against this weak sked the next 4gms then Nurse gets to coach at the allstar game.

Might even get to coach a giannis-siakam-lowry unit.
 
He's gonna be all kinds of fun until his knees explode into eleventy pieces

Already has once

But yeah, he's not built for longevity. Though in fairness, I said that about Lebron like a decade ago. They he lost 25 pounds, and discovered just about every cutting edge longevity technology available to him.
 
Already has once

But yeah, he's not built for longevity. Though in fairness, I said that about Lebron like a decade ago. They he lost 25 pounds, and discovered just about every cutting edge longevity technology available to him.

Maybe in five years, we sill discuss these techs. I can say right now, canada is possibly the worst country to obtain.

Canada? Hahaha, I beat off the streetwalk mafia today. By pure fucking Tom Wilson intimidatiions.

That shit still works Canadians. Stare someone down and if needed, bring it. I did, with the street police mafia.

Canada sucks but its might still be the most forward country in the world.

Scary, but it is what it is. Who called Four on four? Fooooof. It was me. So consider my surprise seeing 3 on 3 with Gary Batman as CEO>


Canada sucks, horrible country. But it might be the country in the world how bad goaltending is that?

I called for four on four for what? A decade? Lol, now he have a three on three. At overtime.

Lol. Toronto? Get? A fucking goaltender....
 
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Already has once

But yeah, he's not built for longevity. Though in fairness, I said that about Lebron like a decade ago. They he lost 25 pounds, and discovered just about every cutting edge longevity technology available to him.

Problem with Zion is his entire game is built on hops and jumping out of the gym.

Bron is a point forward who refined his game over the years . Barkley was a freak as well heavier and shorter
and adjusted . Both are efficient players with high IQ

He needs to drop weight and use his strength to develop a post game , easy buckets and less stress on his ligaments
 
Problem with Zion is his entire game is built on hops and jumping out of the gym.

Bron is a point forward who refined his game over the years . Barkley was a freak as well heavier and shorter
and adjusted . Both are efficient players with high IQ

He needs to drop weight and use his strength to develop a post game , easy buckets and less stress on his ligaments


Zion looks way way way better and more than your description here in his first 2 pro games.
 
Zion looks way way way better and more than your description here in his first 2 pro games.

He had months off to shoot and work on his game

He has looked good , good for him to start refining his game

If he develops some post moves he will be unstoppable with his strength

My point was being the hiflyer at Duke wont translate into a long career in the NBA
 
He had months off to shoot and work on his game

He has looked good , good for him to start refining his game

If he develops some post moves he will be unstoppable with his strength

My point was being the hiflyer at Duke wont translate into a long career in the NBA

looks like he has better perimeter skills than most any rookie you'll see.
 
I don't think much of Zion's wing skills tbh, I don't disagree with Geeman there for the time being. I think against soft defensive schemes he can use his speed and power to get to the rim because he's just that level of an athlete, but I don't love his handles and though he can knock down an open 3, I don't see him as a premier threat from there any time soon. Wonky form with a bad, low release point. He's going to be streaky out there.

Open court in transition he's already one of the most dangerous players in the league, mid to low post he's already stupid to deal with, especially because of the match up problems he presents. Anyone who is athletic enough to stay in front of him is 230 or lighter. Anyone strong enough to keep from getting bullied isn't fast enough to stay in front of him.

I've watched a bunch of his first two games and there are some warts though. He gets lost on the defensive end, a lot. More than is even normal for a rookie at this phase of his career. I don't know if he's over extending looking for weak side block opportunities or what, and I do expect this to improve as he get acclimated to the NBA but he definitely isn't entering the league with a particularly high basketball IQ. On the offensive end it's kind of similar. He spends a lot of time looking like he's not sure where to be, how to space, etc. I'll reserve judgement because we're only 2 games deep, but he's definitely not a natural from the IQ standpoint.
 
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