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OT: The Official Toronto Raptors Thread

zeke said:
I dunno that Scottie/Quickley/RJ will be enough to entice Scottie to stick around tho.
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This off season is big.

- Scottie gets signs his max extension most likely (doesn't kick in until 2025/26)
- Quickley gets his extension (5/135 most likely)
- Brown I'm assuming is traded before the deadline, or his option is declined in the summer.

Raptors enter the off season with this going into next season:

C - Jake (19.5)
PF - Scottie (10.1)
SF - RJ (25.7)
SG - XXXXXX
PG - Quickley (RFA ~27m *Bird Rights*)

6 - Dennis (13.0)
7 - Boucher (10.8)
8 - Dick (4.7)
9 - McDaniels (4.7)
10 - Koloko (2.1)

Total: 117.6
Cap: 142
Luxury Tax Threshold: 172

So right off the hop the Raptors have ~25M in cap space(50+ if they hit free agency before re signing Quickley, we have his bird rights) & moveable contracts in trade (Jake, Dennis, Boucher, McDaniels) plus 2 (maybe 3 if the rest of the season is a disaster) 1sts.

A lot of money and assets to add good players in a hurry.
 
That has to be the only plan here, otherwise this trade doesn't happen.

Now we know no amazing UFA will come, so it's a matter of adding some disgruntled star another team wants to dump?
 
LeafOfFaith said:
Now we know no amazing UFA will come, so it's a matter of adding some disgruntled star another team wants to dump?
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The internal thinking is probably that Scottie-IQ-RJ is worth building around (they're probably right) and that if the right move comes along, they can accelerate the process by spending draft capital. But have enough cap space this season to go and add quality rotation players to this group.

There's a bunch of interesting names available this summer in free agency: Claxton, Malik Monk, KCP, Miles Bridges, Klay Thompson, Buddy Hield, Oubre, Melton, Toppin, Isaiah Joe, Lonnie Walker who could quickly turn into a nice rotation here.
 
In all honesty, now that you have all the trade return on OG and Siakam, why not make an all out push to sign him, even to the max?

I really want to see this scenario unfold once.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
For shits and giggles, Scottie, RJ, Quickley, Siakam, and OG wouldn't be an amazing lineup?
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I don't think so, no.

I've gone at length to discuss my thoughts on Pascal being good but just good. OG I love, but there's a reason he's been solid step up in New York than he was in Toronto. He's the same defensive animal he's always been, but on offence they have him run to the corner and stand there. He's shooting .417% from 3 in New York, but it's because he's gone from 40% of his 3's being from the corner to 73%. His usage is down a chunk as well. The ball simply isn't ending up in his hands unless it's a transition finishing situation or he's standing in the corner in a catch and shoot situation. Hard for me to justify ~80 million in cap space for a guy who is maybe a top 40 offensive player in the league, and another guy whose offensive role on a good but not great team is to stand in the corner and space.

I think we can find those skills elsewhere for significantly cheaper.
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
I likes the idea of Kelly Oubre
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This is actually a pretty good free agent class for what our needs are or could be

C: Claxton, iHart, Mo Wagner, Bitadze, Jalen Smith, (I'd be exploring Jake trades and opting for a tandem of 2 younger, cheaper guys that are 20-25mpg guys that do different things...unless we can get Claxton)
Big Wing: Derrick Jones Jr, Patrick Williams, Royce O'Neal, Oubre, Miles Bridges, Toppin *RFA* (could definitely use one of these that can defend some and shoot some
Small Wing/SG: Lonnie Walker, Malik Monk, Buddy Hield, Isaiah Joe, Kennard (100% need whatever it was that GTJ was supposed to be)
Guard: Melton, Cam Payne (if a trade comes up for Dennis that makes sense)
 
MindzEye said:
This is actually a pretty good free agent class for what our needs are or could be

C: Claxton, iHart, Mo Wagner, Bitadze, Jalen Smith, (I'd be exploring Jake trades and opting for a tandem of 2 younger, cheaper guys that are 20-25mpg guys that do different things...unless we can get Claxton)
Big Wing: Derrick Jones Jr, Patrick Williams, Royce O'Neal, Oubre, Miles Bridges, Toppin *RFA* (could definitely use one of these that can defend some and shoot some
Small Wing/SG: Lonnie Walker, Malik Monk, Buddy Hield, Isaiah Joe, Kennard (100% need whatever it was that GTJ was supposed to be)
Guard: Melton, Cam Payne (if a trade comes up for Dennis that makes sense)
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Ill just trust that some of these names that do not immediately excite me are actually good and represent plus bench rotation pieces.
 
So we are currently tied with Memphis for 6th worse, it will take a little bit of work for Portland to pass us, but i'd like to think that's the goal going forward.

Ive heard spec we might not play Brown much in order to make sure he stays healthy before we trade him
 
Look, I think it was painfully obvious that the 26 to 30yrs "core" of the previous couple of years was not working. Masai just didn't build those teams properly.

For along time they didn't have a proper Center to do proper Center things. They didn't have a lot of shooting, and play making. They had a lot of good players with overlaping skill sets.

It just didn't work.

They got lucky and drafted a Franchise Player - Barnes - out of now a mediocre (?) Draft.

As the years went on, that core wasn't winning and GOT EXPENSIVE while in their prime. It wasn't getting better.

The time to have realizes this was last year. The Front Office, being probably too loyal, wanted to believe and that costed them trade leverage
- didnt help that the league liked but didn't LOVE the Raps players.

Pascal loving Toronto was, well a hindrance?

So here we are today. Masai blinked and went for draft equity, to kick start the retool.

I think in a couple of years, we will like his work, but I fear retool 3.0 won't hit the highs as the original.
 
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Is that Gradey Dick?
 
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