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OT: The Toronto Blue Jays

Jays also get Wagner and Loperfido.

Wagner and Loperfido are the first "old guys" we've added. at age 25, so not really prospects per se, but both have interesting enough lines to see MLB upside even if it's just as role players.

All in all this was quite a haul for just free agents. IMO we've added 4 legit prospects (Bloss, Clase, Coffey, Paulino) and 4 worthwhile borderline prospects (Loperfido, Wagner, Pinango, Schreck). Pretty great for guys who have no value beyond this year.
 
houston doesn't have a great system though.

and i have a hard time seeing the hype for Loperfido. he is kinda toolsy and versatile which is nice but he's 25 and i'm not sure we can expect him to even be a league average bat at this point.
 
143 wRC+ in AA last year with power (ISO .252), 121 in AAA this year with a .296 ISO.

Lot of fantasy hype around this guy this year too, but he may ultimately just be a tweener. Wouldn't want him as the main piece, but as an extra piece it's a great gamble to make.
 
axlsalinger said:
143 wRC+ in AA last year with power (ISO .252), 121 in AAA this year with a .296 ISO.

Lot of fantasy hype around this guy this year too, but he may ultimately just be a tweener. Wouldn't want him as the main piece, but as an extra piece it's a great gamble to make.
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oh it's a good deal but I don't see the hype on his starter upside. a guy like our Alan Roden is a year younger than him and had a 147wrc+ at AA last year, and even a year younger he was too old for the level and isn't more than a borderline prospect. Loperfido hasn't been good enough at his ages to warrant top prospect type of hype imo.

and let me check what the projection systems think he is right now at 25.......Zips projects him at a 91wrc+ and Steamer has him at a 88wrc+. Not too surprising to me.
 
zeke said:
oh it's a good deal but I don't see the hype on his starter upside. a guy like our Alan Roden is a year younger than him and had a 147wrc+ at AA last year, and even a year younger he was too old for the level and isn't more than a borderline prospect. Loperfido hasn't been good enough at his ages to warrant top prospect type of hype imo.

and let me check what the projection systems think he is right now at 25.......Zips projects him at a 91wrc+ and Steamer has him at a 88wrc+. Not too surprising to me.
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Alan Roden has no power though. A .099 ISO in AAA this year, .149 last year in AA.

Loperfido has struggled in the MLB this year no doubt, he's not walking (5.9%) and striking out way too much (36.4%). However, he's always walked at every level so I'm not worried about that. Gotta get the K's down, though.

Lot of people saying the jump from AAA to MLB is harder than it's been for a while. Pitching down there sucks, it takes time for most guys to adjust.
 
Yeah so basically 5 games ago he had 6 hr and a 750 ops in his first 100 pa’s. he’s probably their best of bat already.
 
here's how he slots in amongst our AAA hitters this year:

UT Horwitz (26): 259pa, 17.0b%, 15.8k%, .401bip, .335avg, .179iso, 158wrc+
1B Tirotta (25): 196pa, 15.8b%, 26.0k%, .323bip, .261avg, .248iso, 140wrc+
RF Lukes (29): 192pa, 9.9b%, 15.1k%, .375bip, .333avg, .146iso, 133wrc+
IF Jimenez (23): 226pa, 13.3b%, 15.0k%, .300bip, .271avg, .160iso, 130wrc+
UT Barger (24): 249pa, 16.1b%, 19.3k%, .299bip, .260avg, .206iso, 126wrc+
IF Wagner (25): 324pa, 16.7b%, 10.2k%, .329bip, .307avg, .123iso, 122wrc+
OF Loperfido (25): 189pa, 11.1b%, 28.0k%, .316bip, .272avg, .296iso, 121wrc+
OF Berroa (25): 239pa, 12.1b%, 23.8k%, .373bip, .296avg, .160so, 121wrc+
UT Martinez (22): 269pa, 8.9b%, 24.2k%, .288bip, .260avg, .264iso, 119wrc+
2B Cancel (27): 100pa, 14.0b%, 30.0k%, .300bip, .244avg, .267iso, 119wrc+
3B DeLosSantos (26): 90pa, 16.7b%, 21.1k%, .286bip, .243avg, .157iso, 114wrc+
C Serven (29): 159pa, 16.4b%, 28.9k%, .386bip, .265avg, .114iso, 109wrc+
CF Clase (22): 285pa, 14.4b%, 25.6k%, .338bip, .269avg, .206iso, 108wrc+
 
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