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OT: The Toronto Blue Jays

As mentioned by someone else, my only concern is the relative lack of talent in the Phillies pipeline. I assume Miller and Wood are going to be more or less off limits in exchange for the types of players we're looking to move out. Marquez and Renteria are nice looking, but far and really really far away from the MLB.
 
Marquez is pretty exciting, so if it comes down to it, worth it for an expiring contract or two. If they want a larger deal, hopefully Wood is in consideration, but Marquez would still be a nice trade chip for us if we decided to flip him in the offseason.
 
48th and 50th ranked prospects, which is pretty darn good, but the names we're trading are no slouches and would be potential impact adds, and we could load up a few bodies in one trade to get a top top guy.

Are Gausman, Varsho, and Hoff not worth one of those two? Starter, CF, and closer. Seems crazy to think they aren't.
 
On the list I'm looking at (MLB), we have three guys in the top 100. Parker (27), Nimmala (43), and Nolan Perry (93) whose name I don't think I've heard even once. I'd have thought Tiedemann would be on this list.
 
I think Gausman or Hoffman can get you a top 75-100 prospect, but i dont think Varsho does

I wonder if the Phills might trade Justin Crawford, who would be our MLB ready CF w can plug in
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
I think Gausman or Hoffman can get you a top 75-100 prospect, but i dont think Varsho does

I wonder if the Phills might trade Justin Crawford, who would be our MLB ready CF w can plug in
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I'm assuming that Crawford would be in any Varsho deal, yeah. The analytics/player dev guy who did the reddit AMA a few weeks ago mentioned that one of the player types that in house defensive analytics usually puts a lot of value on is OF'ers with 60-70+ grade speed who run bad routes in the outfield. You can teach routes, you can't teach 60-70+ grade speed and one of those guys learning how to get a good jump and run a good route is an immediate gold glove calibre CF'er. Crawford is exactly that right now, and one with good contact skills and at least gap power.
 
MindzEye said:
As mentioned by someone else, my only concern is the relative lack of talent in the Phillies pipeline. I assume Miller and Wood are going to be more or less off limits in exchange for the types of players we're looking to move out. Marquez and Renteria are nice looking, but far and really really far away from the MLB.
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But how many AAAA players?
 
MindzEye said:
I'm assuming that Crawford would be in any Varsho deal, yeah. The analytics/player dev guy who did the reddit AMA a few weeks ago mentioned that one of the player types that in house defensive analytics usually puts a lot of value on is OF'ers with 60-70+ grade speed who run bad routes in the outfield. You can teach routes, you can't teach 60-70+ grade speed and one of those guys learning how to get a good jump and run a good route is an immediate gold glove calibre CF'er. Crawford is exactly that right now, and one with good contact skills and at least gap power.
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I dunno if you get Crawford for Varsho straight up, but i think the Phills would have interest in on of our RP/SP as well and i can see a somewhat bigger deal with us being interested in Aroon Escobar, Dante Nori, or a rising lotto ticket like Juan Parra.

I assume Wood, Marquez, Miller,Renteria are off limits
 
i mean every team should have signed Murakami, but nobody did except the Chicago Frickin' White Sox, which shows what the general consensus was regarding his skills. And there are still some warning signs in the underlying data that are concerning, though his power may be big enough that it might not matter. Regression monster comes for everyone eventually, though. And it seems odd to single out the Blue Jays on this one, since there was a lot of debate between how good Murakami and Okamoto would be coming over from Japan, and at least the Jays signed the other guy, who has been pretty good himself.
 
I thought Murakami should be the Jays #1 target in the offseason (for several years actually, since it became clear he’d post in 2026). The White Sox got an incredible deal because of some extremely limited data set that concluded he couldn’t hit velocity. Murakami is currently the best hitter against high velocity in MLB. I would have personally bet on the generational power. He’s a K machine for sure, but it’s clearly worth it.

 
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