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OT: World Politics

CoP28 is likely to end in a useless muddle and inaction.

It makes me wonder what the G2, the US and China, will do. They just had a summit in California and surely they were expecting this pointless outcome.
 
LeafGm said:
It’s honestly shocking how long this guy has stayed alive. Don’t know why Putin didn’t have him fall out of a prison window long ago.

And I’ll add the caveat that I hope he’s OK and he’s definitely way better than Putin. But “he represents everything good about Russia” is a bit of a stretch. Navalny is still an imperialist and Russian chauvinist to the bone.
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yeah I've also wondered why Putin has permitted him not only to live this long, but to have access to social media etc...
 
MindzEye said:
I was never naive enough to think that all racism was gone from the world. But 15 years ago I simply wouldn't have believed that we would ever reach a point where it was publicly "acceptable" to be this virulently racist.
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in the past, people felt just enough shame to keep it hidden....Trump is definitely the perfect Prez for this era of shamelessness when nothing is so bad that you risk losing everything. No matter what you do, you will always retain a big chunk of people that will defend and cheer for you.
 
CH1 said:
MindzEye said:
I was never naive enough to think that all racism was gone from the world. But 15 years ago I simply wouldn't have believed that we would ever reach a point where it was publicly "acceptable" to be this virulently racist.
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in the past, people felt just enough shame to keep it hidden....Trump is definitely the perfect Prez for this era of shamelessness when nothing is so bad that you risk losing everything. No matter what you do, you will always retain a big chunk of people that will defend and cheer for you.
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This is honestly one of the worst things about Trump’s candidacy and Presidency, aside from pushing America to the brink of having a fascist dictatorship take power.

All of this racism was still there bubbling under the surface, but we’d at least reached a point in Western society where it was personally and professionally ruinous to not keep that shit tightly under wraps.

Trump gave all these people license to not only crawl out from the rocks they were hiding under, but revel in their racism and wear it like a badge of honour. Not sure how that genie is going to get put back into the bottle when last time it took tens of millions dying in the holocaust to tamp it down for the next few generations.
 
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