OT: World Politics

[lecoqsportif]

This was my take on this too, it's the only path to ending the war that preserves both sides. The Ukranians have only one path out of this unfortunately due to having their hands tied behind their backs by the West and that path is a negotiated settlement. In any negotiation, you have to give something up. We know the Ukranians are willing to part with some land, now the question is, can Putin accept NATO membership.

He can’t. Regime survival and imperial conquest doesn’t square with giving something up in negotiations.

And if the shooting stops, you can expect a full accounting of war crimes by the Russians which will make the Serbs in The Hague look like Boy Scouts.

 

[WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou]

Gorilla warfare is necessary here unfortunately.

I think you meant "guerilla" warfare.

Unless of course you actually meant this.

 

[WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou]

This was my take on this too, it's the only path to ending the war that preserves both sides. The Ukranians have only one path out of this unfortunately due to having their hands tied behind their backs by the West and that path is a negotiated settlement. In any negotiation, you have to give something up. We know the Ukranians are willing to part with some land, now the question is, can Putin accept NATO membership.

It's a brilliant move by Zelenskyy. Cede a bit of territory but include the poison pill of NATO membership to ensure that the next time Putin decides he wants more, he will trigger Article 5.

 

[AP79]

I think you meant "guerilla" warfare.

Unless of course you actually meant this.
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LMAO, you're correct, thanks for pointing that out, I'll edit my original post.

 

[worm]

LMAO, you're correct, thanks for pointing that out, I'll edit my original post.

No. Don't!

 

[WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou]

LMAO, you're correct, thanks for pointing that out, I'll edit my original post.

Nah, leave it. We need all the laughs we can get these days.

 

[MindzEye]

Gorilla warfare would beat guerilla warfare every.fucking.time.

Just look at those terrifying bastards

Nope...just nope

 

[lecoqsportif]

Or it could be blended…

 

[axlsalinger]

they don't look that tough to me

 

[LeafGm]

He can’t. Regime survival and imperial conquest doesn’t square with giving something up in negotiations.

And if the shooting stops, you can expect a full accounting of war crimes by the Russians which will make the Serbs in The Hague look like Boy Scouts.

Vlad might actually be smart to take the deal.

Stop the fighting, consolidate the territory he’s taken and start rebuilding his forces—all in exchange for a NATO membership for Ukraine that very soon won’t be worth the paper it’s written on when Trump does his job.

 

[Wayward DP]

uh why was it being slow walked to begin with, Joe?


View: https://bsky.app/profile/noelreports.com/post/3lcde7owhyk2l

 

[WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou]

they don't look that tough to me

Those are chimps, not gorillas

 

[WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou]

Vlad might actually be smart to take the deal.

Stop the fighting, consolidate the territory he’s taken and start rebuilding his forces—all in exchange for a NATO membership for Ukraine that very soon won’t be worth the paper it’s written on when Trump does his job.

Europe isn't going to fold NATO just because the US drops out. They don't have an ocean between themselves and Russia.

 

[lecoqsportif]

Vlad might actually be smart to take the deal.

Stop the fighting, consolidate the territory he’s taken and start rebuilding his forces—all in exchange for a NATO membership for Ukraine that very soon won’t be worth the paper it’s written on when Trump does his job.

Feasible. He’ll need to sell the story on the inside that delaying until Trump gives him the W. But it’s very risky.

 

[Wayward DP]

a good read


View: https://bsky.app/profile/michaeldweiss.bsky.social/post/3lcdsporje22h

 

[MindzEye]

Vlad might actually be smart to take the deal.

Stop the fighting, consolidate the territory he’s taken and start rebuilding his forces—all in exchange for a NATO membership for Ukraine that very soon won’t be worth the paper it’s written on when Trump does his job.

I hope he bites on that premise, because it's a misread imo. I think Europe will be better and more efficient at re arming Ukraine than Russia will be in re arming themselves and there is enough legitimate military capability in NATO even without the US to do the work. Even if it's only the UK, Poland, Finland, and Sweden who show up for the Article 5 party, that's enough.

 

[hockeylover]

South Korea had declared martial law, accuses main opposition party of sympathizing with North Korea…

 

[LeafGm]

South Korea had declared martial law, accuses main opposition party of sympathizing with North Korea…

Cool cool.

Another democracy down the drain.

 

[MindzEye]

Cool cool.

Another democracy down the drain.

Can be overturned by a majority vote of their parliament. Police busses were obstructing them from entering because always remember, the police are not your friends, they're the first tool used by the powerful to oppress you.

 

[Wayward DP]

I'm trying to figure out what is going on in South Korea and as far as I can tell this is just a blatant power play by their PM?

Like, there is no actual basis for imposing martial law? And once Parliament convenes, they will undo it, if they are allowed to vote?

What am I missing here?