OT: WWE/MMA/Boxing Thread
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GGpX
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That's what happens when you have a prominent MMA coach (James Krause) openly betting on fights, having an actual podcast with his thoughts and then having one of his fighters go into a fight injured and losing almost instantly, only for them to notice that the betting odds changed drastically in the hours right before.
But when you're a small fucking deal like MMA, shit like that usually passes. It's part of why injury reports are so important in the NFL, and why eventually injuries will have to be fully disclosed in hockey.
But when you're a small fucking deal like MMA, shit like that usually passes. It's part of why injury reports are so important in the NFL, and why eventually injuries will have to be fully disclosed in hockey.
GGpX
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So the issue then becomes, how much bigger is gambling in the sport, beyond someone like James Krause who was stupid enough to open his mouth about it?
If it keeps getting bigger & bigger, then it might change how MMA in North America functions, and not always for the best.
If it keeps getting bigger & bigger, then it might change how MMA in North America functions, and not always for the best.
MindzEye
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Symptom of the problem. Real problem is that a lot of top 100 MMA athletes lives in poverty and a lot of MMA gyms exist on a month by month basis. Same as washed out legends getting their highest pay days in celebrity boxing matches, etc. There's a tomato headed goof vacuuming up all the money in the sport for him and his corporate overlords. A few of his chosen elite make a couple million and the rest get CTE for minimum wage.
GGpX
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A shame. We lost out on Dillashaw's prime years because of that stupid cut to 125.
USADA is more than worthless. They make up their rules as they go along.
Have some of you been following the USADA issue with McGregor? Well, our dear leprechaun has been recovering from breaking his leg against Poirier and now he looks jacked as a motherfucker. Meanwhile, he hasn't been tested once by USADA.
So here's the problem. An active UFC fighter can only "exit" the USADA testing pool by either retiring or getting cut. USADA is year-round, in camp and out of camp drug testing. It's not the old school, "Are you clean on the night of the fight?" type of testing the athletic commissions used to do, where you could cycle out all of the junk long before the drug test came.
And yet... McGregor is still an active UFC fighter and is still ranked at Lightweight. So... Why was McGregor allowed to leave the pool?
The answer: Because they make up their rules as they go along. In their written rules, it's clearly written that if a fighter leaves the pool, it's because he was cut or retired. McGregor is neither, and yet he's not in the pool, probably taking all sorts of shit in-between lines of coke on his yacht.
USADA is a kangaroo court with tons of unintended consequences on fighters careers (such as Josh Barnett, for example) without any consequences. USADA isn't there to "clean up the sport"; You're a fucking cretin if you believe that.
Luke Thomas has a theory and I think he's 100% right: USADA is insurance.
One day, unfortunately, someone's going to fight in the UFC and they're going to get seriously injured or even die because of the fight. Well, what happens if the fighter who administers the crippling or even lethal blow(s) ends up failing a drug test? That opens up a very large can of legalities and bullshit.
However, USADA would be the UFC's insurance to show that they've been putting tremendous amount of effort and money for a lot of years in hopes of catching those who dope.
Timestamped where he was talking about it in a live chat he did last week:
USADA is more than worthless. They make up their rules as they go along.
Have some of you been following the USADA issue with McGregor? Well, our dear leprechaun has been recovering from breaking his leg against Poirier and now he looks jacked as a motherfucker. Meanwhile, he hasn't been tested once by USADA.
So here's the problem. An active UFC fighter can only "exit" the USADA testing pool by either retiring or getting cut. USADA is year-round, in camp and out of camp drug testing. It's not the old school, "Are you clean on the night of the fight?" type of testing the athletic commissions used to do, where you could cycle out all of the junk long before the drug test came.
And yet... McGregor is still an active UFC fighter and is still ranked at Lightweight. So... Why was McGregor allowed to leave the pool?
The answer: Because they make up their rules as they go along. In their written rules, it's clearly written that if a fighter leaves the pool, it's because he was cut or retired. McGregor is neither, and yet he's not in the pool, probably taking all sorts of shit in-between lines of coke on his yacht.
USADA is a kangaroo court with tons of unintended consequences on fighters careers (such as Josh Barnett, for example) without any consequences. USADA isn't there to "clean up the sport"; You're a fucking cretin if you believe that.
Luke Thomas has a theory and I think he's 100% right: USADA is insurance.
One day, unfortunately, someone's going to fight in the UFC and they're going to get seriously injured or even die because of the fight. Well, what happens if the fighter who administers the crippling or even lethal blow(s) ends up failing a drug test? That opens up a very large can of legalities and bullshit.
However, USADA would be the UFC's insurance to show that they've been putting tremendous amount of effort and money for a lot of years in hopes of catching those who dope.
Timestamped where he was talking about it in a live chat he did last week:
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GGpX
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For what it's worth, I have zero problem with athletes doping. Let 'em dope. Just look at the Dutch kickboxers who have very, very minimal drug testing and they're a fucking marvel. And then you look at 90% of the heavyweights in MMA? Who look like people who are too lazy to get on a real diet so that could make 205?
Let 'em dope.
Let 'em dope.
