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Rumors: 2024-25 Season

Anderson is a trade-the-second-you-get-no-long-term-money-in-return deal. But it's most likely an off-season move.

This team desperately needs to clear the contracts with term, minus Suzuki-Caufield-Dach-Newhook.

Cap flexibility is paramount.
 
GGpX said:
Anderson is a trade-the-second-you-get-no-long-term-money-in-return deal. But it's most likely an off-season move.

This team desperately needs to clear the contracts with term, minus Suzuki-Caufield-Dach-Newhook.

Cap flexibility is paramount.
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Cap flexibility does nothing for the Habs right now , there are no big ticket players to sign

Tons of money coming off the books in a year and 31 is one year closer for an LTIR trade

I dont see teams giving up the moon for us to retain salary and take crap off their hands
 
GEEMAN said:
Cap flexibility does nothing for the Habs right now , there are no big ticket players to sign

Tons of money coming off the books in a year and 31 is one year closer for an LTIR trade

I dont see teams giving up the moon for us to retain salary and take crap off their hands
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It's not about signing players. Building a team through UFAs, unless those UFAs are John Tavares or Alex Pietrangelo, who come once every decade almost, is a fool's errand and will just repeat the cycle that we're in now. The rest of the UFAs are mostly in the 27 to 29 years old range (or older like Steven Stamkos) and about to be past their prime. Bad idea, don't do it, don't do it, don't fucking do it.

The capspace could be used to acquire bad contracts for assets, although this organization seems mostly uninterested in doing that.

It's about giving yourself long-term flexibility should a Jack Eichel type of player becomes available.

I've given up on having this organization tank to try to acquire top end prospects in the lottery, much to my dismay.

So, if that avenue's closed, what's the alternative? There will come a day, eventually, when a high-end player (like Jack Eichel) will become disgruntled and will want to leave whatever organization he's in. When the next Jack Eichel rolls around, you need assets and cap space. We have the future assets, but we're tight on the capspace.

Let's say, for argument's sake, Robert Thomas becomes available by St. Louis overnight. Two firsts, Lane Hutson & Joshua Roy. If that doesn't work, change Lane Hutson for Kaiden Guhle. Figure out a way to find the right combination of assets to get him here, whatever the cost might be.

However, if he becomes available tomorrow, that trade wouldn't work because the Gallagher/Anderson/Dvorak/Armia contracts are fucking us.
 
The cap space allows you to act when a player does suddenly become available, and they do.
 
GGpX said:
It's not about signing players. Building a team through UFAs, unless those UFAs are John Tavares or Alex Pietrangelo, who come once every decade almost, is a fool's errand and will just repeat the cycle that we're in now. The rest of the UFAs are mostly in the 27 to 29 years old range (or older like Steven Stamkos) and about to be past their prime. Bad idea, don't do it, don't do it, don't fucking do it.

The capspace could be used to acquire bad contracts for assets, although this organization seems mostly uninterested in doing that.

It's about giving yourself long-term flexibility should a Jack Eichel type of player becomes available.

I've given up on having this organization tank to try to acquire top end prospects in the lottery, much to my dismay.

So, if that avenue's closed, what's the alternative? There will come a day, eventually, when a high-end player (like Jack Eichel) will become disgruntled and will want to leave whatever organization he's in. When the next Jack Eichel rolls around, you need assets and cap space. We have the future assets, but we're tight on the capspace.

Let's say, for argument's sake, Robert Thomas becomes available by St. Louis overnight. Two firsts, Lane Hutson & Joshua Roy. If that doesn't work, change Lane Hutson for Kaiden Guhle. Figure out a way to find the right combination of assets to get him here, whatever the cost might be.

However, if he becomes available tomorrow, that trade wouldn't work because the Gallagher/Anderson/Dvorak/Armia contracts are fucking us.
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That player will NEVER choose Mtl or as Gord Miller continually states, “it’s well known in hockey circles, players simply want nothing to do with Cdn markets, so fans need to be aware when they seek to express displeasure”
 
Sal_Butera said:
That player will NEVER choose Mtl or as Gord Miller continually states, “it’s well known in hockey circles, players simply want nothing to do with Cdn markets, so fans need to be aware when they seek to express displeasure”
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Cool, glad Robert Thomas has a NTC preventing him from----

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...oh
 
Thomas is only 24 anyway, He can be part of the rebuild /retool , if the Blues choose this path. The only way he gets traded is if there are some irreconcilable differences betweeen him and the team.
 
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GEEMAN said:
Cap flexibility does nothing for the Habs right now , there are no big ticket players to sign.
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It’s very valuable trade capital, especially if a lot of other teams are up against the limit and are carrying bad contracts.

Taking on Monahan’s hit got us a first round pick, which can be parlayed as part of a bigger trade.
 
Sal_Butera said:
Robert Thomas will NOT be made available because STL will never rebuild under Armstrong and he is very close to the consortium owners and will leave when he wants to like Poile w Preds
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Jesus fucking Christ, I know he won't. Nobody's arguing that he will. It's an example in theoretical situation.

Replace Thomas by Aho, by Stutzle, by whomever.
 
GGpX said:
It's not about signing players. Building a team through UFAs, unless those UFAs are John Tavares or Alex Pietrangelo, who come once every decade almost, is a fool's errand and will just repeat the cycle that we're in now. The rest of the UFAs are mostly in the 27 to 29 years old range (or older like Steven Stamkos) and about to be past their prime. Bad idea, don't do it, don't do it, don't fucking do it.

The capspace could be used to acquire bad contracts for assets, although this organization seems mostly uninterested in doing that.

It's about giving yourself long-term flexibility should a Jack Eichel type of player becomes available.

I've given up on having this organization tank to try to acquire top end prospects in the lottery, much to my dismay.

So, if that avenue's closed, what's the alternative? There will come a day, eventually, when a high-end player (like Jack Eichel) will become disgruntled and will want to leave whatever organization he's in. When the next Jack Eichel rolls around, you need assets and cap space. We have the future assets, but we're tight on the capspace.

Let's say, for argument's sake, Robert Thomas becomes available by St. Louis overnight. Two firsts, Lane Hutson & Joshua Roy. If that doesn't work, change Lane Hutson for Kaiden Guhle. Figure out a way to find the right combination of assets to get him here, whatever the cost might be.

However, if he becomes available tomorrow, that trade wouldn't work because the Gallagher/Anderson/Dvorak/Armia contracts are fucking us.
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Thats fine if this team is on the cusp of contending and that cap and draft capital helps out , like it did for Vegas

Plus that player is not available next year and Montreal is not the destination he wants

Robert Thomas + types are nice but not changing this teams fortune when the Habs are half a roster away from complete

I prefer the Dach route that dont break your prospect capital with a high potential reward

I also dont mind acquiring draft/prospect capital to take on a bad contract that expires in a year

Habs are years away from being players in any UFA/ high caliber talent away sweepstakes , only if X player wants the scrutiny of this city
 
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