CMD has a 1.42 PPG career, big advantageWell... 40/70 wasn't exactly accurate.
His career scoring pace is 52g/92p
CMD has a 1.42 PPG career, big advantageWell... 40/70 wasn't exactly accurate.
His career scoring pace is 52g/92p
There's only one player on the ice who can largely affect games on their own, and we've had front-row seats to it for a while here with Halak & Price. You could even go further back than those two if you want.
Raymond Bourque, who is amongst the elite of the elite of all time defensemen, saw his teams eliminated 9 times in the first round in his twenty years in Bawstun. Yzerman, who you brought up, was a player that was almost got traded out of Detroit because of his failures, which magically evaporated overnight when he had an assembly of HHOFers surrounding him.
Unfortunately for McDavid, he got drafted into one of the worst franchises in the league. Management there has gone out of their way to make it nigh-impossible for him to succeed; it's a 2 man team. Crosby's been fortunate enough to have a great surrounding cast most of his career, although The Choking Dog robbed him of one or two Cups.
I fully expect Toronto & Deadmonton to be first round fodder (unless Deadmonton plays Las Vegas, they have a shot), but it's got nothing to do with how McDavid & Matthews play. They're both on teams that don't have a really good defense and their goaltenders are going to falter. I'm not sure how either of them can fix that.
There's only one player on the ice who can largely affect games on their own, and we've had front-row seats to it for a while here with Halak & Price. You could even go further back than those two if you want.
Raymond Bourque, who is amongst the elite of the elite of all time defensemen, saw his teams eliminated 9 times in the first round in his twenty years in Bawstun. Yzerman, who you brought up, was a player that was almost got traded out of Detroit because of his failures, which magically evaporated overnight when he had an assembly of HHOFers surrounding him.
Unfortunately for McDavid, he got drafted into one of the worst franchises in the league. Management there has gone out of their way to make it nigh-impossible for him to succeed; it's a 2 man team. Crosby's been fortunate enough to have a great surrounding cast most of his career, although The Choking Dog robbed him of one or two Cups.
I fully expect Toronto & Deadmonton to be first round fodder (unless Deadmonton plays Las Vegas, they have a shot), but it's got nothing to do with how McDavid & Matthews play. They're both on teams that don't have a really good defense and their goaltenders are going to falter. I'm not sure how either of them can fix that.
You can add Mario Lemieux who only won one playoff series (and actually only made the playoffs once) in his first 6 seasons.
Bourque's Bruins (a couple of finals) and Yzerman's pre-Cup Red Wings (from nothing to a western finalist and then finalist) actually accomplished quite a bit in the playoffs during the first half of those two players' careers in comparison to what we've gotten out of Matthews's Leafs and McDavid's Oilers so far. And yes, they generally likely had stronger supporting casts, but still....
True , but got nearly 2 points per game in his first playoff
Even Yzerman averaged 1.28 PPG after his 5 first playoff years
34 and 97 need to step up
I can't believe I have to say this, but you guys know about the Norris division in the 80s right?
His teams from 18-24 yrs old lost in the first round 3 times, missed the playoffs twice and and one of their conference finals appearances involved beating 52 point team in the second round.
Sure. There's plenty of examples throughout history.
Holding it against a player because his team didn't go far in the playoffs is mainstream media-driven narrative that doesn't hold up to any kind of scrutiny. Also, comparing a player's production over a 82 game season to a playoff series ranging from 4 to 7 games is nonsense. Every player has stretches where they have slumps, sometimes they just so happen in playoffs.
You know why Matthews's production wasn't great last year? Because he ran into a hot goaltender. McDavid got basically wrestled into the ice without any reprecution because the NHL is run by fucking dinosaurs in clown uniforms.
Hockey isn't tennis, where the only standard of measuring greatness is wins.
Put Matthews or McDavid on Tampa Bay and try convincing me they're not a lock for 170 points / season and the centerpiece of a dynasty.
34 has toooooooo much talent to not be a star in the playoffs
He should of destroyed the Hab nots and Columbus , no excuses
Its a valid debate with Matthews or any star player in any era .Uh, yes, sure. He needs to be better.
Comparing his playoff numbers to a star in the late 80s Norris division is still a really, really bad argument.
Another Kraken win. Beniers is having an impact on the team already.
That’s a yuge win for the crackings. Habs looking good for at least 31st.