The 2019-2020 MotherFucking Season Thread

[Volcanologist]

Gauthier is the weakest forward on the roster. He doesn't use his size so it's not really any loss.

I say this despite Engvall falling off the map the last 30 games..think Giraffe still has something to give offensively.

This long pause makes the case for Spezza over Goat even more. Giggles was actually playing pretty great for us in his role. I think having him rested as a fourth liner could be a secret weapon for us this playoff.

 

[zeke]

Yeah i go back and forth on it. I do think spezza is "better" but I also think he's a liability defensively. And I think freddy has received far tougher zone deployment this year than spezza which may shade our perceptions of them a bit.

 

[Volcanologist]

yeah that's the thing. Giggles is probably better as a 4W than a C, and Goat is the only other one we have.

 

[zeke]

Well engvall wasn't great at C but in a strict 4th line role I'd feel safer with him at C over spezza too.

 

[Volcanologist]

honestly I wouldn't mind any mixup to the bottom 6. they've let us down this season, the big guys had to really carry things.

really looking forward to Robertson hopefully giving us a scoring spark from a line that doesn't have a superelite centre on it.

 

[zeke]

That reminds me of some stats i wanted to run....


Point paces last year ---> this year:

Non-PP

Matthews 64 ----> Matthews 64
Marner 73 ---------> Marner 60 ----> -13
Tavares 69 --------> Tavares 51 ----> -18

Nylander 32 ------> Nylander 51 ---> +19
Hyman 47 ---------> Hyman 50
Johnsson 42 ----> Mikheyev 48

Kapanen 43 ------> Kapanen 39
Marleau 27 -------> Johnsson 31
Kadri 35 ------------> Kerfoot 32

Brown 28 ---------> Engvall 26
Ennis 21 ----------> Spezza 26
Lindholm 16 ----> Clifford/Timashov 18

Gauthier 16 ------> Gauthier 16
Moore 26 ---------> Moore 15
Leivo 9 -------------> Petan 15



Rielly 51 ---------> Rielly 35 -----> -16
Muzzin 36 ------> Muzzin 36

Gardiner 33 ----> Barrie 32
Zaitsev 14 ------> Ceci 12

Hainsey 23 -----> Holl 22
Dermott 22 -----> Dermott 16

Marincin 17 -----> Marincin 13
Ozhiganov 11 --> Sandin 18




Power Play

Matthews 24 ------> Matthews 29
Marner 21 ----------> Marner 34
Tavares 19 ---------> Tavares 27
Kadri 15 -------------> Nylander 21
Rielly 21 ------------> Barrie 14

Gardiner 7 ---------> Rielly 12
Marleau 10 --------> Hyman 10
Nylander 9 ---------> Spezza 10
Ennis 8 ---------------> Kerfoot 4
Johnsson 7 -------> Johnsson 10

Muzzin 8 -----------> Sandin 6
Kapanen 3 --------> Kapanen 4

 

[zeke]

I think maybe we forget that the 3rd line was very unimpressive last year too. Maybe even worse when considering defense/possession.

 

[zeke]

And yeah I would absolutely move hyman back with tavares a d marner. They need his help at even strength, matthews and nylander do not.

 

[hockeylover]

Would there be a significant difference in just the numbers under Keefe, do you think?

 

[Preston]

I think maybe we forget that the 3rd line was very unimpressive last year too. Maybe even worse when considering defense/possession.

Marleau and brown cow spent a decent chunk on that line no?

 

[zeke]

Marleau and brown cow spent a decent chunk on that line no?

Iirc Marleau-Kadri was pretty much a fixture and Kappy/Brown/Nylander mixed in depending on what the injuries were.

 

[zeke]

Would there be a significant difference in just the numbers under Keefe, do you think?

Hmm. Don't think so but maybe.


I'll check.

 

[zeke]

babcock ----> keefe (non-PP)

Matthews 71 ----> Matthews 61 (-10)
Marner 50 ---------> Marner 64 (+14)
Tavares 46 --------> Tavares 52

Nylander 50 ------> Nylander 51
Hyman 47 ---------> Hyman 52
Mikheyev 43 ------> Mikheyev 56 (+13)

Kapanen 39 ------> Kapanen 39
Johnsson 29 ----> Johnsson 33
Kerfoot 25 ------------> Kerfoot 35 (+10)

Moore 20 ---------> Engvall 26
Spezza 38 ----------> Spezza 22 (-16)
Shore 8 -------------> Clifford 15 / Brooks 35 / Aberg 16

Gauthier 14 ------> Gauthier 17
Timashov 21 ----> Timashov 15
Petan 18 -----------> Petan 12



Rielly 43 ---------> Rielly 27 (-16)
Muzzin 41 ------> Muzzin 32

Barrie 18 ----> Barrie 38 (+20)
Ceci 14 -------> Ceci 10

Holl 23 ----------> Holl 21
Dermott 16 -----> Dermott 16

Marincin 0 -----> Marincin 17
Sandin 27 ------> Sandin 15


Power Play

Matthews 25 ------> Matthews 31
Marner 32 ----------> Marner 34
Tavares 26 ---------> Tavares 28
Johnsson 14 ------> Nylander 26
Rielly 18 ------------> Barrie 18

Barrie 7 ‐‐-----------> Rielly 7/Sandin 8
Spezza 6 -----------> Spezza 11
Nylander 11 ---------> Hyman 9/Johnsson 4
Kerfoot 8 ---------------> Kerfoot 2
Kapanen 4 --------> Kapanen 4

 

[zeke]

Record with Andersen in net:

16-17: 99pt pace, .918sv% ------> Backups: 77pt pace, .906sv%
17-18: 101pt pace, .918sv% -----> Backups: 123pt pace, .930sv%
18-19: 108pt pace, .917sv% -----> Backups: 78pt pace, .905sv%
19-20: 105pt pace, .909sv% ----> Backups: 69pt pace, .892sv%

 

[Habsy]

So you're saying goaltending matters? Who knew?

Many seasons have been crushed by shoddy backups.

 

[zeke]

there's a bunch of implications there as to the growth curve of these matthews leafs, really.

 

[Jeremy]

Leafs rule!

 

[uncus]

My only player concerns.... Anderson, Dermott and kerfoot.

And the NHL calling the game like a regular season game and not letting the hooking, holding, after whistle crap they seem to deviate to each playoff season ..... wtf.

Chara and the likes are allowed to turn into Bart the bear and maul anyone within their reach.

Players leaving their feet to throw hits and the refs turn their heads and say it is good old fashioned playoff hockey.

Call the bloody rules!

If Anderson can play like 20 game mark Freddie???
If kerfoot can show something .... Anything????
And Dermot gets the fog out ....
Leafs in 3.

And I relish the thought of Toronto playing the Bruins again ..... Toronto in 5. Guaranteed!

The only team on the east that should pose a real problem for the leafs is Tampa ......

And when the leafs make it to the finals, I can only see Colorado as the team who is probably capable of beating the leafs with their talent. And that is even a coin toss.

They can keep their first overall pick, I want a Stanley Cup.

Mario junior will carry the team to the cup.

Would love to see the leafs and Habs in the conference finals .....

 

[JackBurton]

on one hand it' nice to have a fully rested freddy for the first time. on the other hand, he'll have months off and he's usually terrible in the first month of the season.
this is it for freddy. he has to come through or there's no new contract.

 

[zeke]

Unbanned at HFdorbs I got in some fights that forced me to discover something imo amazing about the whole Lou vs Dubas leafs nation hatefest....



"These are all the additions that Lou made in his 3yrs here that were still under team control when Dubas took over:

1. A.Matthews: 21, Final ELC year
2. F.Andersen: 29, $5.00m x 3yrs (NTC)
3. R.Hainsey: 37, $3.00m x 1yrs (NTC, 35+ age contract)
4 P.Marleau: 39, $6.25m x 2yrs (NMC, 35+ age contract)
5. N.Zaitsev: 27, $4.50m x 6yrs (NTC)

Top Prospects:

1. T.Liljegren
2. C.Grundstrom
3. I.Scott
4. J.Woll
5. Y.Korshkov


That's it. That is the entirety of what Lou added to the organization that was still here when he left. One outstanding piece that was no brainer 1st overall pick. One good goalie. One decent old dman. Two horrendous untradeable contracts. And one good prospect."