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The Fantastically Beautiful Joyously Superfun 22-23 Season Celebration Thread

CH1 said:
Get that 2nd line winger for 1st rounder +, and all will fall into place, including having ROR anchor the 3rd line

Dubas will get it done - too much at stake and too much prep work already in the can
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The concern for me right now is that they will need to subtract from the roster in order to add anyone for cap reasons. So either they subtract Holl and Schenn is a guaranteed regular (he probably already is a regular, but this would cement it). Or they subtract Kerf and still have some issues with their depth. Getting a Kerf upgrade is great, but this would essentially cost them Kerf+Engvall so the returns are immediately diminished quite a bit.

The other, far more intriguing option, is if they can trade Kerf and add 2 forwards instead of just the one and keep Holl as the 6 and Schenn the 7. But I don't think that's likely.


But.. I do agree that there are plenty of ways that they can improve the team, even if not drastically so. We'll see what he does.
 
MindzEye said:
I'm not too proud to admit that I'm a bit agitated. We keep getting slower and less skilled while showing the same "lack of compete" that these moves are all alleged to address while on the other hand not playing or flat out giving away good depth kids and placing value on complete passengers like the Kerfoot's and Jarnkrok's of the world.

It just really seems like there isn't a coherent philosophy at work here.
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the Schenn deal was kinda the straw that broke the camel's back for me.

losing Engvall for nothing seems silly, but I could live with it, especially given playoff Pierre.

I wasn't even that upset to see Sandin go for not really much of anything, I was ready to trade him last season.

and in a vacuum, acquiring McCabe at 50% retained was a shrewd move, but that was before we saw the cost on Chychrun and Ekholm, both of whom I think are superior to McCabe.

Lafferty I don't know that I care about but maybe I should.

and I was never in favour of acquiring ROR either, although I was and remain willing to be wrong on that.

Acciari was maybe the best fucking move, which is saying something.

but Luke fucking Schenn? for a 3rd? to displace a better d-man (we all know and expect this to happen, hence the unholy rage)? fuck right off you Cro-Magnon motherfuckers. fuck right off.
 
Preston said:
The concern for me right now is that they will need to subtract from the roster in order to add anyone for cap reasons. So either they subtract Holl and Schenn is a guaranteed regular (he probably already is a regular, but this would cement it). Or they subtract Kerf and still have some issues with their depth. Getting a Kerf upgrade is great, but this would essentially cost them Kerf+Engvall so the returns are immediately diminished quite a bit.

The other, far more intriguing option, is if they can trade Kerf and add 2 forwards instead of just the one and keep Holl as the 6 and Schenn the 7. But I don't think that's likely.


But.. I do agree that there are plenty of ways that they can improve the team, even if not drastically so. We'll see what he does.
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Does the addition of Holmberg/McMann and even Knies (no idea what to expect there though) help elevate some depth pressure there

Small sample but McMann seemed to work in the bottom 6 and is on a heater at the moment.
 
Artnes said:
Does the addition of Holmberg/McMann and even Knies (no idea what to expect there though) help elevate some depth pressure there

Small sample but McMann seemed to work in the bottom 6 and is on a heater at the moment.
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Another year and yet again the only answer at the deadline is...

How the fuck are we supposed to know? We didn't play any of the kids enough to know if we should be comfortable using them in the playoffs and are again relying on shitty veteran scrubs from bad teams to fill gaps.

Despite, of course, our kids looking like the best part of our depth in limited action...again.
 
I still like the McCabe move. At 2m for 3 playoff runs, if he's #ActuallyGood, that could age really really well. I'm undecided and unsure of whether the right play would have been to grab an Ekholm or Chychrun (Chychrun would have likely cost Knies since that is the best comp the Leafs have for this years Sens 1st). Ekholm's risk is the whole contract thing, but he's good enough to probably say fuck it and give it a shot maybe.

But in saying that, there is tremendous value in McCabe at 2m if they got the player evaluation right. I do not blame Kyle for making that decision, even if it wasn't the boldest one he could have made.
 
ROR and Acciari was a great move that was a huge upgrade.

McCabe and Lafferty was a good move, but they missed on an oppotunity to hit one out of the park with Chychrun.

Engvall and Schnn trades were meaningless.

Sandin was bad.
 
Preston said:
I still like the McCabe move. At 2m for 3 playoff runs, if he's #ActuallyGood, that could age really really well. I'm undecided and unsure of whether the right play would have been to grab an Ekholm or Chychrun (Chychrun would have likely cost Knies since that is the best comp the Leafs have for this years Sens 1st). Ekholm's risk is the whole contract thing, but he's good enough to probably say fuck it and give it a shot maybe.

But in saying that, there is tremendous value in McCabe at 2m if they got the player evaluation right. I do not blame Kyle for making that decision, even if it wasn't the boldest one he could have made.
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I'm okay with the McCabe move in a vacuum. What irks me a bit is that we probably should have been looking for a Muzzin replacement 18 months ago. So yeah, McCabe at 2 million for 3 playoff runs is probably a good move assuming our pro scout on him isn't dead wrong. But if we were willing to throw those type of assets at a Muzzin replacement, doing that shit 18 months ago is probably the better way.
 
It’ll be interesting to see what they do next. They have to move a D even to just bring in Knies. But the only one that makes sense to move is Gustafson and they just traded for him.
 
The other bit is the Coyotes expressed complete unwillingness to retain any Chychrun salary so they would have had to send some additional salary out (I mean fuck Kerfoot so it should be easy but that player will never leave) and you're looking at a package involving Knies for 3 playoff runs of Chychrun at 4.6m vs the McCabe package for 3 playoff runs at 2m. Putting it that way, I'm genuinely not sure the decision is as obvious as it looks.
 
zeke said:
Mikheyev ---> O'Reilly
Engvall ------> Acciari
Kase ----------> Jarnkrok
Blackwell ---> Lafferty
Spezza ------> ZAR

Muzzin -------> McCabe
Boosh ---------> Schenn
Sandin --------> Gustafsson

Campbell -----> Samsonov
Mrazek ---------> Murray

Not overwhelmed by the "upgrades" tbh.
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Bolded is whom I would take

No bold is a wash for me
 
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Preston said:
The other bit is the Coyotes expressed complete unwillingness to retain any Chychrun salary
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Part of that is likely the Chychrun contract structure specifically. 50% is cash and cap.

Chychrun cash remaining:
23/24 - 5.4 million
24/25 - 7.0 million

But now after looking at Crouse and Schmaltz's contracts...yeah, not a fucking chance. Cheap fucks front loaded Schmaltz a lot and the cheap years are over:

23/24 - 7.5
24/25 - 8.45
25/26 - 8.50

Looking at that, Schmaltz might actually be the play...there's no way Zona wants to pay him over the next few seasons and are likely motivated sellers. This is also the cheapest year of Crouse's deal by a bit as well.
 
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