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The Mother-fucking goddamn Off-season Thread

Dubas showing how big a piece of shit he is, lol. Who the fuck goes in front of the media, cries like a bitch about how hard this year was on his ''family'' and how it's only Toronto or he'll take the year off then the second he's fired starts interviewing for new jobs.

Let's see how he does when he isn't handed a golden situation which he can milk.
 
Red Line said:
Dubas showing how big a piece of shit he is, lol. Who the fuck goes in front of the media, cries like a bitch about how hard this year was on his ''family'' and how it's only Toronto or he'll take the year off then the second he's fired starts interviewing for new jobs.

Let's see how he does when he isn't handed a golden situation which he can milk.
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My line was drawn at: 'this is so hard for my family....I'll have to decide if we should put them through it.....pay me more"
 
Montana said:
…and I know people are divisive on this, but to me it’s impressive he recognized NHL talent in Holl and Engvall, when seemingly no one else did.

I thought up until the Sandin trade, he also had a pretty damn good track record of knowing the assets to keep, (Lil, Sandin, Knies, etc) and the ones to deal away.
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I mean I'm actually okay with trading Ras, just not when we did and for what we did.
 
MindzEye said:
Eh, I don't really subscribe to either point here.

The organization should have been playing guys like Holl & Engvall as a matter of philosophy until they outright failed and had to be replaced by a body outside of the organization. Giving your 27-28 yr old #1 AHL defender, and your 22 yr old, 6'5 breakout winger extended shots to stick on the NHL club should be SOP, not an outlier worth identifying and holding up as an example of good management.

And to the 2nd point....I mean, he basically ends up trading everything young away and not all of it has turned out to be smart. Moore, Barabanov, 1st round picks, Durzi, etc, etc. He definitely hasn't shown some 6th sense in when to sell high on all the kids and when to hold them.
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eh where does a guy like Moore and his what, $4.2 m cap hit fit on our roster?

and Barabanov couldn't fucking keep up on our team.

Durzi likely struggles to crack our top six.

Grundstrom is a 4th liner.

etc.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I dunno, I honestly don't even put it at a 1% chance. I think he was so transparent.

He lagged on extending because he was expecting the Leafs to advance far this year and give him leverage. That didn't happen, so he insisted on doing the presser, where he showed ambivalence for the job and threw the family thing out there, and thinking Shanny would've been rattled by the thought of losing him, would cave to the upcoming demand for bigger dollars and maybe even the rumored autonomy stuff.

He came off as a complete moron, pissed off Shanny for taking advantage of all the time and space he gave him, and negated all of the family crap with the greedy demand. He did this all publicly.

So, for your theory to be correct here, Dubie would have deliberately wanted to air dirty laundry to the world, get himself fired from what most would consider the top GM job in the league where he'd been comfortable for years and had hired pretty much everyone around him, go back on his public statement that he won't show up somewhere else next week (why would he do that if he was hoping to get out and go to Pittsburgh??), all to uproot his family and go to Pittsburgh where he's locked into the old stars' contracts that he won't be able to trade, and I would wager for substantially less salary?
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for yours to be correct Dubie needs to be basically a fucking narcissist, which we've seen no evidence of to date.
 
Wayward DP said:
eh where does a guy like Moore and his what, $4.2 m cap hit fit on our roster?

and Barabanov couldn't fucking keep up on our team.

Durzi likely struggles to crack our top six.

Grundstrom is a 4th liner.

etc.
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the guy they took with our 1st is looking bustish as well
 
MindzEye said:
I mean, this would be epic and insane levels of tampering. Pittsburgh would lose their 1st round pick from now until the heat death of the sun
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Yes, agreed, I misstated. I really meant that if they got to free agency, he'd be so hot and heavy to get a conversation going with them and fuck Shanny over.
 
Wayward DP said:
eh where does a guy like Moore and his what, $4.2 m cap hit fit on our roster?

and Barabanov couldn't fucking keep up on our team.

Durzi likely struggles to crack our top six.

Grundstrom is a 4th liner.

etc.
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Eh we had a chance to take advantage of a number of dirt cheap effective years of guys like Moore Barabanov Marchment etc and didnt even give them a chance.
 
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