The Mother-fucking goddamn Off-season Thread

[blkngldbabe]

Am I Bart?

No. Him.

 

[Preston]

If the point you’re making is that this one particular example of a dumb Treliving move isn’t as bad as the combination of a couple examples of bad Dubas moves…ok I guess?

“None of the above” is still very much the preferred option here though.

Treliving has done a lot of dumb shit. I wouldn't necessarily put the Coleman move in the same bucket as a lot of the others tho. He's really good. I think you're heavily underrating the player here.

 

[Habsy]

So woke of you

Woke this. Hate that word.

Before having daughters? Maybe. After? Don't objectify.

 

[blkngldbabe]

the TDL is where Dubie & co lost me, and they haven't really done anything to get me back.

I mean, beating Tampa was fun and all, but that turned back to misery right quick.

Isn’t this bound to happens regardless? The closer to the trophy they go, the bigger the heartache? Watching your fave team chase the cup in the finals to just be eviscerated emotionally in game 7? We all set ourselves up for this. Every. Single. Year. The highest of highs and the lowest of lows in fandom.

 

[Habsy]

See Bills. Early 90s

 

[Wayward DP]

Isn’t this bound to happens regardless? The closer to the trophy they go, the bigger the heartache? Watching your fave team chase the cup in the finals to just be eviscerated emotionally in game 7? We all set ourselves up for this. Every. Single. Year. The highest of highs and the lowest of lows in fandom.

I don’t think that’s it. I don’t feel like beating Tampa was much in the way of meaningful progress. Its more distress that our window may be closing sooner than expected after accomplishing diddly squat.

 

[Montana]

Why are esthetics remotely important for the job?

 

[blkngldbabe]

I don’t think that’s it. I don’t feel like beating Tampa was much in the way of meaningful progress. Its more distress that our window may be closing sooner than expected after accomplishing diddly squat.

I just recall 1995 finally watching the Steelers in a Super Bowl. Being ecstatic at the game then distraught over two identical pick 6s that ended up being the demise of all hope. The road to the big game was awesome. Losing on the biggest stage sucked big path Moose cock. Same with losing to GB. So close it feels you can reach out and touch it. Then Bupkiss. I do understand the window closing feeling though. That being said, we as fans have no idea how things are going to unfold. The fun in debating it and discussing possibilities is what makes this worthwhile regardless of outcomes in my humble opinion. You know. The friends we made along the way.

 

[Montana]

I don’t feel like beating Tampa was much in the way of meaningful progress.

we made the current NHL Dynasty franchise, first round fodder…..after taking them to the brink last season when they were defending Champs, en route to yet another final.

 

[Hoss]

I'm sick of the brink.

 

[MindzEye]

2 regulation wins in 11 games doesn't feel very brinky to me

 

[Montana]

Now we are taking away actual playoff wins from Dubas teams.



so good.

 

[leafman101]

Dubas clearly has Treliving on July 1 (though many here would point to JT being the worst contract of all). I prefer to not give out expensive long term contracts to depth players. At least Treliving did it to analytic darlings and not Komis/Clarksons, but still. I’d much rather use July 1 for JTs, and Brodie and bargain bin shopping than Coleman’s and Froliks.

Treliving has him on trades. Dubas fucked up a ton there, gave away top line talent and a ton of picks for nothing and Treliving made a lot of big deals that made his team better. Even opting for a younger, signed guy like Toffoli at the deadline over expensive, past their prime rentals. Ppl will point to Tkachuk but he had to trade him and did very will under the circumstances. People were shocked at the return last summer, even the twitter nerds like Dom. But it doesn’t matter because you will always lose a Tkachuk trade. Which is exactly why we can’t trade Marner or Nylander.

seems to have him on draft too. Way more high end swings and produced more NHlers although there is still a lot to be determined in the 19-22 drafts.

if you could combine them they’d make a pretty good GM.

 

[MindzEye]

Now we are taking away actual playoff wins from Dubas teams.



so good.

5 playoff victories also doesn't feel very brinky

Feel better?

 

[leafman101]

There is really no point in litigating Dubas record. Anyone happy with the final tally is lying.

we all hope Treliving can get done what Dubas couldn't. Period. And I don’t mean 6 playoff wins.

We have already wasted 5 years of this cores prime.

 

[Montana]

Running tab:

- regular season success [doesnt count]
- any Keefe success [doesnt count]
- beating a dynasty [doesnt count]
- playoff wins in OT [doesnt count]
- trading for Hyman [doesnt count]
- bad Treliving signings [doesnt count; cause Calgary]
- Treliving’s Tkachuk trade [doesnt really count]
- bad Treliving extensions [doesnt count]
- drafting Knies [doesnt count, took too long]
- signing Bunting for top 6 [doesnt meet mbow criteria]

 

[Artnes]

Dubas clearly has Treliving on July 1 (though many here would point to JT being the worst contract of all). I prefer to not give out expensive long term contracts to depth players. At least Treliving did it to analytic darlings and not Komis/Clarksons, but still. I’d much rather use July 1 for JTs, and Brodie and bargain bin shopping than Coleman’s and Froliks.

Treliving has him on trades. Dubas fucked up a ton there, gave away top line talent and a ton of picks for nothing and Treliving made a lot of big deals that made his team better. Even opting for a younger, signed guy like Toffoli at the deadline over expensive, past their prime rentals. Ppl will point to Tkachuk but he had to trade him and did very will under the circumstances. People were shocked at the return last summer, even the twitter nerds like Dom. But it doesn’t matter because you will always lose a Tkachuk trade. Which is exactly why we can’t trade Marner or Nylander.

seems to have him on draft too. Way more high end swings and produced more NHlers although there is still a lot to be determined in the 19-22 drafts.

if you could combine them they’d make a pretty good GM.

I recall being vocal about wanting to deal for Marner for Tkachuk + at the time and being panned for it and while I liked his game, would have never have guessed he would turn into the player we saw this season

I think we all expected Hubredeau to regress but as for trade value, his did well at the time. The extensions afterwards werent great

 

[leafman101]

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dubas knew he needed to replace the pretty boys on the team with some crooked noses at the deadline to win a round.

what he didn’t realize is he was also too pretty.

 

[Montana]

Anyone happy with the final tally is lying.

not those of us that believe in process over small sample playoff results.

we all hope Treliving can get done what Dubas couldn't. Period. And I don’t mean win 6 playoff games.

I’ll be over the moon if he can even keep par with Dubas.

 

[Montana]

I recall being vocal about wanting to deal for Marner for Tkachuk + at the time and being panned for it and while I liked his game, would have never have guessed he would turn into the player we saw this season

I’ve never been able to come back around to liking Marner since the contract negotiations….(while obviously realizing he’s incredible)….so top marks for wanting that deal, I’m not even sure if I would have had the guts to pull the trigger on it in the moment.

unquestionably the exact kind of deal we could have used tho…..even to just break up this “Mitch and Auston want to play together” nonsense.