The Mother-fucking goddamn Off-season Thread

[Preston]

I'll let you figure out what 17% of 90M is

hint, it's considerably higher than the 12.6M zeke is arguing Matthews should sign for

 

[zeke]

if Matthews matches 17% of year 1 cap like McDavid and Crosby did, despite not even finishing top 20 in scoring and generally not being considered on their level, that would mean $14.3m per year.

 

[hockeylover]

the number definitely is higher if you pick a fictional higher cap number, true.

 

[CH1]

if Matthews matches 17% of year 1 cap like McDavid and Crosby did, despite not even finishing top 20 in scoring and generally not being considered on their level, that would mean $14.3m per year.

I said 14.3444. please throw in a few bucks for aesthetic and sentimental reasons

 

[zeke]

18-19 (21yrs): 45gl/88pt pace
--- signs $11.6 x 5yr deal ---
19-20 (22yrs): 55gl/95pt pace
20-21 (23yrs): 65gl/105pt pace
21-22 (24yrs): 67gl/119pt pace
22-23 (25yrs): 44gl/94pt pace

are we going to pretend that this year, where he regressed all the way back to his 21yr old form from when he signed his previous contract, didn't happen? That a guy coming off a year like that is a guy who should be breaking all league precedents for contracts?

 

[CH1]

So, you would trade Matthews for McKinnon?

 

[leafman101]

And it wouldn’t be a precident setting contract for McDavid.

Matthews 14.6% would be $13.1 on a $90 mill cap.

 

[zeke]

So, you would trade Matthews for McKinnon?

Dom would.

 

[Preston]

Love him but you can't really compare Matthews to MacKinnon tbh

 

[CH1]

Dom would.

what about you?

 

[MyNameIsJonas]

18-19 (21yrs): 45gl/88pt pace
--- signs $11.6 x 5yr deal ---
19-20 (22yrs): 55gl/95pt pace
20-21 (23yrs): 65gl/105pt pace
21-22 (24yrs): 67gl/119pt pace
22-23 (25yrs): 44gl/94pt pace

are we going to pretend that this year, where he regressed all the way back to his 21yr old form from when he signed his previous contract, didn't happen? That a guy coming off a year like that is a guy who should be breaking all league precedents for contracts?

LOF is that you?

 

[zeke]

I'd think about it.

 

[Killer93]

Trade Murray to Jets for Wheeler retained to match salaries

 

[CH1]

I'd think about it.

fair enough

 

[LeafGm]

Its up to him, obviously.

But MacKinnon could have got more too. Same with Pastrnak.

They chose not to.

And those are the guys he has to beat to win cups.

The next time Matthews or Marner prioritize winning a Cup ahead of making the most money they possibly can will also be the first time that’s ever happened.

 

[zeke]

The next time Matthews or Marner prioritize winning a Cup ahead of making the most money they possibly can will also be the first time that’s ever happened.

eh Matthews took ~13% of a reasonably projected 5yr cap at the time, and ~14% of the projected year 1 cap at the time. And didn't think he deserved McDavid money.

 

[leafman101]

Mackinnon got 15.2% btw, which is $13.6 on a 90 million cap. Which as HL said, is a made up cap.

 

[Preston]

Marner is the guy that will demand Matthews money. Matthews, I'm less sure about how hard he's gonna dig in.

 

[leafman101]

Also we are talking about a sport where players took like 20 year deals just to get team friendly cap hits before there was a term limit.

hockey players just don’t look to set precedents.

 

[zeke]

Mackinnon got 15.2% btw, which is $13.6 on a 90 million cap. Which as HL said, is a made up cap.

For the record the NHL has it's projected cap numbers from before the season, the same ones that MacKinnon used, and next year's cap looks to be right on projections.

Projections:

23-24: 83.5
24-25: 87.5
25-26: 92.0