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The Mother-fucking goddamn Off-season Thread

zeke said:
Just that Matthews behave the same way as other hockey players behave, and not as some unique unicorn.
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keep ignoring the fact that the salary cap is poised to jump in unprecedented ways.... and hope Matthews' agent also ignores it.
 
I literally took it into account with extreme specifics. And nothing has changed in terms of what the cap increases look like going forward from when mackinnon and pastrnak signed their deals.

Dom's cap projection numbers don't even differ from mine. He is just of the belief that some super elite players deserve a higher percentage of that cap, and that Matthews should be the one guy that sets that new and proper precedent, regardless of the fact that everyone who he is competing for cups against did not.
 
zeke said:
I literally took it into account with extreme specifics. And nothing has changed in terms of what the cap increases look like going forward from when mackinnon and pastrnak signed their deals.

Dom's cap projection numbers don't even differ from mine. He is just of the belief that some super elite players deserve a higher percentage of that cap, and that Matthews should be the one guy that sets that new and proper precedent, regardless of the fact that everyone who he is competing for cups against did not.
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no shit...that's how it's worked in pro sports for the past four decades.
precedents get set
why not Matthews? why not now?

and no, I will not take "because Pasta" as an answer
 
Think I agree with zeke here really. The number will be big but it'll be clear he tried to balance team competitiveness like all the other stars in hockey have, IMO.

Not sure I'd compare to just pro sports in general here.
 
CH1 said:
no shit...that's how it's worked in pro sports for the past four decades.
precedents get set
why not Matthews? why not now?

and no, I will not take "because Pasta" as an answer
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you won't take "because every other player in hockey" for an answer?
 
zeke said:
you won't take "because every other player in hockey" for an answer?
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no
If Auston doesn't set a new precedent, then it'll be McDavid in a few years

your "every other player in hockey" has squat to say about this
 
CH1: "Matthews will shatter all precedents and will be paid precisely according to Dom's model, far more than other stars have been paid before"

Zeke: "eh, this player will likely get paid according to league precedents like everyone else"

CH1: "lol biased"
 
Hockey contracts are very much reverse looking. Dom isn’t wrong that it isn’t in the players best financial interest, and no one could blame anyone for trying to maximize earnings. But that doesn’t change the fact that they don’t.
 
zeke said:
amazing how "setting a new precedent" becomes important precisely at the moment the leafs' best player's contract is up.
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that's your paranoia...stop being so narrow minded

Auston is in rarified air as a player, and the league is just recovering from the economic weight of a pandemic

perfect storm to reset the very top of the payscale

we'll see what happens...whatever Auston signs for, I predict you will be happy...so don't sweat it.
 
In the same rarified air as MacKinnon, who signed 9 months ago, since when cap projections haven't changed an iota.
 
zeke said:
CH1: "Matthews will shatter all precedents and will be paid precisely according to Dom's model, far more than other stars have been paid before"

Zeke: "eh, this player will likely get paid according to league precedents like everyone else"

CH1: "lol biased"
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you're not biased this time; just contradicting regular season zeke where McDavid and Matthews are firmly in their own stratosphere
 
CH1 said:
you're not biased this time; just contradicting regular season zeke where McDavid and Matthews are firmly in their own stratosphere
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you're doing a deep cut, in order to pretend that this season, his most recent season, where Matthews wasn't even a top-20 scorer, needs to be ignored completely.
 
leafman101 said:
Neither set precedents last time though. McDavid just got Crosbys 17% of the cap second deal.
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I'll let you figure out what 17% of 90M is

hint, it's considerably higher than the 12.6M zeke is arguing Matthews should sign for
 
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