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The Mother-fucking goddamn Off-season Thread

Treliving has 6-7 disaster contracts over his time, that individually would have fucked our franchise for a long time.. And now we’re handing him the check book to make signings in a month.

…wait, so now you’re stanning for Babcock?

pointing out that Babcock was a good coach for a long time isn't stanning.
 
I'll be honest. One of my bigger concern points with the Treliving hiring is how far ahead the media knew what was going on in general and specifically how far ahead Dreger knew it was basically done.

The media has existed in the cone of silence for 8-9 years now, but suddenly as soon as Treliving is involved the media is out ahead of the story.
 
I'll be honest. One of my bigger concern points with the Treliving hiring is how far ahead the media knew what was going on in general and specifically how far ahead Dreger knew it was basically done.

The media has existed in the cone of silence for 8-9 years now, but suddenly as soon as Treliving is involved the media is out ahead of the story.
It is possible that he could be both the most obvious candidate to any chimp in the media and the guy Shanahan wanted
 
I'll be honest. One of my bigger concern points with the Treliving hiring is how far ahead the media knew what was going on in general and specifically how far ahead Dreger knew it was basically done.

The media has existed in the cone of silence for 8-9 years now, but suddenly as soon as Treliving is involved the media is out ahead of the story.
Is it simply because Nonis is now in Calgary and they technically have to let Toronto have permission to interview? Otherwise, it’s a strike against him if it’s stuff coming from his camp.
 
I'll be honest. One of my bigger concern points with the Treliving hiring is how far ahead the media knew what was going on in general and specifically how far ahead Dreger knew it was basically done.

The media has existed in the cone of silence for 8-9 years now, but suddenly as soon as Treliving is involved the media is out ahead of the story.

I’ll reiterate, Mirtle said he’d heard Treliving’s name tied to us as far back as mid season…so either someone was feeding him bullshit that hilariously ended up happening, or some sort of back channel conversations were had between intermediaries.

….and I’d almost give credit to Shanny for that. If he knew he liked Treliving as a possible option, it’s good he found out what kind of interest Treliving had, in the event the job did become available.
 
I’ll reiterate, Mirtle said he’d heard Trelivings name tied to us as far back as mid season…so either someone was feeding him bullshit that hilariously ended up happening, or some sort of back channel conversations were had between intermediaries.

Yeah, there's some strong "old boys club" stink on this imo.
 
BPJ (Boston Pizza Jr) is an ok hire, but since this is not a rebuild situation, I think Shanny wanted someone to hit the ground running.

I think the key to this hire is his AGMs. Are they retreads like Nonis? or Are they they they Dubus/Hardy hires.

This could be the same situation as 10 years ago. Hire the guy you really like and have a mentor to take the pressure off and show them the ropes of how to handle the Canadian Media.
 
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they went from a 105pt team to 100pts…..sure, plant your flag on that. 🙄

actually you're underselling the dubas leafs there.

I don't care about shootout wins, and that 105pt team had a whole bunch of them.

Paces ignoring Shootout Wins:

16-17: 94pts
17-18: 98pts

enter Dubas

18-19: 100pts
19-20: 94pts (Babs 75, enter Keefe 103)

20-21: 111pts
21-22: 112pts
22-23: 110pts


also

16-17: #11 xgf%
17-18: #13 xgf%

enter Dubas

18-19: #11 xgf%
19-20: #11 xgf% (Babs #25, enter Keefe #5)

20-21: #2 xgf%
21-22: #3 xgf%
22-23: #5 xgf%



also

16-17: #11 sv%
17-18: #4 sv%

enter Dubas

18-19: #10 sv%
19-20: #21 sv% (Babs #22, enter Keefe #20)

20-21: #16 sv%
21-22: #22 sv%
22-23: #10 sv%
 
I’ll reiterate, Mirtle said he’d heard Treliving’s name tied to us as far back as mid season…so either someone was feeding him bullshit that hilariously ended up happening, or some sort of back channel conversations were had between intermediaries.

….and I’d almost give credit to Shanny for that. If he knew he liked Treliving as a possible option, it’s good he found out what kind of interest Treliving had, in the event the job did become available.

if you want help with the conspiracy - note that in April, Treliving WALKED AWAY from the calgary job. They wanted him back and he said no.
 
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