• Moderators, please send me a PM if you are unable to access mod permissions. Thanks, Habsy.

Around the League 2019-2024 Edition

I didn't watch the Oilers game but did watch the extended highlights.

They keep talking about goalies but problems go so far from that. Wide open shot on the first goal. Puck hits the back of an substituting player leading to a 2nd goal. Bouchard falling on his butt on another goal. Multiple chances at goal without clearance on yet another goal. Pickard did have multiple great saves too.
 
CTheBigPicture said:
I didn't watch the Oilers game but did watch the extended highlights.

They keep talking about goalies but problems go so far from that. Wide open shot on the first goal. Puck hits the back of an substituting player leading to a 2nd goal. Bouchard falling on his butt on another goal. Multiple chances at goal without clearance on yet another goal. Pickard did have multiple great saves too.
Click to expand...

Eh, those are a goalies job. Goalies make great saves. We notice them as defensive mistakes when they go in or the save makes Sportscentre.

Edmonton's D gives up the 3rd fewest shot attempts, 9th fewest chances, 7th fewest high danger chances and the 14th most expected goals. They're not great defensively but they're not bad either. There is simply no overcoming .867 goaltending, I don't care if it's the 1995 New Jersey Devils, you can't win that way.

Which is why this is so fucking wonderful. When goaltending is the absolute main problem with a team, they tend to blame everything else in addition to the goaltending. They blame the forwards for every bad back check that leads to an odd man rush, the defenders for every chance given up that ends up in the net, etc when competent goaltending (not elite, not even good, just competent) erases 1 or more of those goals a night and turns 4-3 losses into 4-3 overtime or shootout wins, 3-2 losses into 2-1 wins, etc.

They're likely to do a lot of stupid shit to their otherwise real gud roster all because the goaltending has been beyond tragic.
 
MindzEye said:
Eh, those are a goalies job. Goalies make great saves. We notice them as defensive mistakes when they go in or the save makes Sportscentre.

Edmonton's D gives up the 3rd fewest shot attempts, 9th fewest chances, 7th fewest high danger chances and the 14th most expected goals. They're not great defensively but they're not bad either. There is simply no overcoming .867 goaltending, I don't care if it's the 1995 New Jersey Devils, you can't win that way.

Which is why this is so fucking wonderful. When goaltending is the absolute main problem with a team, they tend to blame everything else in addition to the goaltending. They blame the forwards for every bad back check that leads to an odd man rush, the defenders for every chance given up that ends up in the net, etc when competent goaltending (not elite, not even good, just competent) erases 1 or more of those goals a night and turns 4-3 losses into 4-3 overtime or shootout wins, 3-2 losses into 2-1 wins, etc.

They're likely to do a lot of stupid shit to their otherwise real gud roster all because the goaltending has been beyond tragic.
Click to expand...
Genuinely surprised at the high danger chance stat. I've watched their games. Eye test fails again.
 
CTheBigPicture said:
Genuinely surprised at the high danger chance stat. I've watched their games. Eye test fails again.
Click to expand...

Something is up between their shot/chance totals and xG though, not all chances are created equally. But I've seen this movie before. Team with dogshit goaltending starts defending differently trying to limit everything from everywhere and ends up allowing fewer but much better chances against that dogshit goaltending allows the majority of into the net. The name of the game is bend but don't break for NHL defences. Limit high danger chances around the net and trust your goalies to make saves from the areas of the ice you're trying to funnel the puck towards. When you stop trusting your goalie you start scrambling to block everything, opening up gaps for cross ice passes, space in front of the net, etc.

So I don't think your eye test is wrong per se, you're seeing high quality chances go in the net against Edmonton. But the numbers are telling us that the defence isn't as porous as it looks and the goaltending should be bailing them out way more often.
 
zeke said:
The Habs should try to trade for Drai.

One or two of Suzuki/Caufield/Dach/Slafkovsky.

One or two of Guhle/Barron/Xhekaj/Harris.

One of two their goalies.
Click to expand...
wait I thought you were never a Drai believer though and think he's a goal-sucking floater? or is that also why you want the Habs to acquire him?
 
Wayward DP said:
wait I thought you were never a Drai believer though and think he's a goal-sucking floater? or is that also why you want the Habs to acquire him?
Click to expand...

I mean yeah he is a goalsucking floater. But he's also a legit elite offensive player which is something every team needs, and the habs do not have.
 
Don’t ruin our tank. Habs need another juicy pick to forego drafting another elite offensive player
 
I think the Habs have a nice chunk of young talent. Turning a bit of that into a guy like Draisaitl could work out nicely. Especially if the trade is late enough not to jeopardize another top-5 pick this year.

nothing on the team or in system is Drai-level, and it's hard to draft any drai-level player even with top picks.
 
zeke said:
I think the Habs have a nice chunk of young talent. Turning a bit of that into a guy like Draisaitl could work out nicely. Especially if the trade is late enough not to jeopardize another top-5 pick this year.

nothing on the team or in system is Drai-level, and it's hard to draft any drai-level player even with top picks.
Click to expand...

If I’m Edmonton I’d covet Guhle but not much else on the Habs
 
yeah maybe.

i mean edmonton are morons so who knows what they think.

Still think they missed an absiolutely golden chance to ditch that useless RNH this summer and get something really really good back for their "100pt center".
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top