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2019-20 Canes Miscellaneous News Thread

Anyone else worried that Vatanen might never be healthy enough to play for us? I would have felt better about this if it was a conditional pick only but including Kuokkanen without any assurance Vatanen will even play a game might not have been smart.

I am.
 
I listened to RBAs post practice audio. I assume the first question was about Vatanen. He said he’s coming along, sill not comfortable, and he will be coming on the trip and skating. But with 5 games in 8 days, I doubt there will be a practice in there. Mrazek has 1 more baseline test to pass, which he’ll take tomorrow. If he comes out of the concussion protocol, he’ll meet the team in Philly. No word on Reimer.
 
May be wishful thinking but I'm hoping there's at least a bit of hope that the guy would re-sign when we grabbed him. A guy's gotta dream.

I don’t know if we can afford him. The Devils are eating half his salary this year. His current deal pays him almost $4.9 million per season. That’s $400k less than TVR and Edmundson combined. But we have 5 high dollar dmen under contract already, with Pesce the cheapest at $4.025 million, followed by Gardiner at $4.05 million. We can also negotiate with Hamilton over the summer. Signing Vatanen will give us 4 dmen over $5 million per season and I don’t know if we want to do that for a guy playing on the 3rd pair and 2nd PP unit.

If negotiations with Hamilton go the same way they did with Faulk, Vatanen can theoretically replace him. But he’ll probably be gone long before Waddell opens discussions with Hamilton’s agent.
 
I’d guess they brought him in thinking he’s a potential piece going forward.

Gardiner, TVR and Edmundson are likely not seen as key re-signs.

I think they’d explore what Dougie is thinking sooner rather than later. so they would have an idea on that fairly soon. They could extend him.

they also have Bean that probably figures in although thinking they’ll lose him to expansion?
 
I’d guess they brought him in thinking he’s a potential piece going forward.

Gardiner, TVR and Edmundson are likely not seen as key re-signs.

I think they’d explore what Dougie is thinking sooner rather than later. so they would have an idea on that fairly soon. They could extend him.

they also have Bean that probably figures in although thinking they’ll lose him to expansion?

Agree on TVR and Edmundson but Gardiner has 3 years left on his contract. This is the first year of a 4 year/$16.2 million contract that has a 7 team no trade list clause.
 
Agree on TVR and Edmundson but Gardiner has 3 years left on his contract. This is the first year of a 4 year/$16.2 million contract that has a 7 team no trade list clause.
Good point. I mean they probably don’t see keeping him as critical. Especially if they can resign Dougie and Vantanan.
 
Anyone else worried that Vatanen might never be healthy enough to play for us? I would have felt better about this if it was a conditional pick only but including Kuokkanen without any assurance Vatanen will even play a game might not have been smart.
Looking back, I think they would have been smarter to trade for a goaltending option over a guy like Vatanen the more these points slip away while both of your regular goalies are out...
 
You can’t pin those losses on the goalies.
Nope, but the Canes are going to need some goaltending to steal some games down the stretch and you cannot expect that from your third and fourth stringers this time of year in a heated playoff race.
 
Nope, but the Canes are going to need some goaltending to steal some games down the stretch and you cannot expect that from your third and fourth stringers this time of year in a heated playoff race.
Until this becomes an issue and points start slipping away because of poor goalie play I don’t see why this is any kind of issue.

our goalie situation is unique. The only reason we have Reimer is becausewe had planned on Darling being our go to. this season we hedged on Mrazak and Reimer by adding Forsburg and having Ned. our top two was dictated as much by contracts as by quality of play. None of our 4 are elite but we’ve gotten an acceptable level of play from all of them.

I understand that we’re not sure that our goalies are good enough to take us where we want but that’s equally true for any/all of the four. And to this point goalie has not been our issue. There were not great upgrade options available for us at the deadline either. It’s not like we could have added Rask for a 3rd rounder and a prospect.

I’m not worried about our goalies until the rest of the team plays to a high enough consistently enough to matter, and then when failure in net is what’s costing us points.
 
Better goalies would help, but our real problem has been inconsistent and irresponsible play (read: poor) in our own zone, combined with a failure to quickly exit ours and enter the opponents zone. When we're skating smoothly out of our zone and forechecking we're a night-and-day different team.
 
Better goalies would help, but our real problem has been inconsistent and irresponsible play (read: poor) in our own zone, combined with a failure to quickly exit ours and enter the opponents zone. When we're skating smoothly out of our zone and forechecking we're a night-and-day different team.
This seems to be somewhat related to not having an effective short passing game. We like long passes and seem to pass from someone with space and time to someone with less space and time.
 
Better goalies would help, but our real problem has been inconsistent and irresponsible play (read: poor) in our own zone, combined with a failure to quickly exit ours and enter the opponents zone. When we're skating smoothly out of our zone and forechecking we're a night-and-day different team.
This.

The goals against numbers matter more than anything else and the Canes are fine in that department, sitting around 8-10 in the league all season. Yeah, you want timely saves from the keepers and that's been a problem at times ... but the bigger issue has been that the team was built to play territorial hockey and to pressure and pursue the puck when they don't have possession and they just haven't been able to do it for the most part. Personally I think they got the balance out of whack with the off season changes, but unless they play the game the right way then every game comes down to special teams battles and when Carolina has sputtered on special teams this year, they've been fairly terrible.
 
Interesting note in Friedman's 31 Thoughts segment on the Canes outdoor stadium series game...

"Carolina is targeting George Strait for its outdoor game. That would be a good get. Cross your heart that it happens."
 
Strait is no spring chicken but he's still very big in country. All his recent albums since 2001 have gone to #1 on the country chart. Last album came out last year. they won't have any problems selling tickets to his show. Not a country fan but I know many are.
 
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