Ned is certainly going to get exposed with that defense in Detroit.You can make the same point about Ned. He had 1 decent season in Charlotte but was ordinary for the rest of his time in the minors. Did he suddenly morph into the 2nd coming of Georges Vezina? Or did playing behind the Canes defense have anything to do with it?
I know I posted this somewhere else, but what Toronto fans seem to fail to grasp is that Mrazek was teetering on the edge of being out of the NHL after a disaster of a partial season in Philly, which had followed a bad full season in Detroit. For the Canes he had a good first season, a not so great 2nd season and then was hurt most of last season (no fault of his own of course).
I suspect playing behind the Canes and Brindy's system possibly saved Mrazek's NHL career. I know most Leafs fans are just happy its someone other than Freddie, but my opinion is Mrazek owes a whole lot to the Canes for saving his career and for the deal he signed in Toronto. I don't think its going to go well for Mrazek there, not well at all.
I believe I ended that thought in my other post with my opinion that the odds of Freddie being Good to Very Good for the Canes are much higher than the odds of Mrazek being Good to Very Good for the Leafs. I really believe that. Just about every goalie has looked great playing for the Canes since Brind'Amour took over except for Scott Darling before we pulled the plug on him. I think the Leafs are much better defensively now than they were a few years ago, but I still think that Mrazek is going to get exposed more often and the Leafs fans are going to turn on him quickly when they watch how Boston toys with him by getting him to overcommit.
Mrazek will most likely give you better than that, but there seems to be narrative that Mrazek is better than the .905 goalie he has been in the regular season over the last 5 years (he's really not) or the .901 goalie he has been in the playoffs over the last few years (which of course is not good at all). I know about Freddie Andersen's warts (especially the penchant for untimely bad goals in the playoffs), but until last season, he was consistently putting up better Sv% numbers than Mrazek (even the season prior to this past one) and that is even more so in the playoffs.I mean, most of us said it when you came over to our board saying this - I think you’ve got this idea of our expectations of Mrazek that is totally wrong. Almost everyone is just talking improvement relative to the .895 we got for 24 games last year.
Agree with you on almost everything. Leafs didn't have to move on from Andersen. They chose to.Mrazek will most likely give you better than that, but there seems to be narrative that Mrazek is better than the .905 goalie he has been in the regular season over the last 5 years (he's really not) or the .901 goalie he has been in the playoffs over the last few years (which of course is not good at all). I know about Freddie Andersen's warts (especially the penchant for untimely bad goals in the playoffs), but until last season, he was consistently putting up better Sv% numbers than Mrazek (even the season prior to this past one) and that is even more so in the playoffs.
Lots of people seem to be slamming the Canes for completely changing their goaltending, but then missing the part where Mrazek really wasn't that good in the playoffs and had a Meh season in year 2. Then those folks slamming the Canes goaltending moves double down on letting Nedelkjovic go, a goalie who was not very good for quite a while, suddenly had one good short season run, effectively blew game 1 in Round 2 of the playoffs with an inexcusable 3rd period goal and came back at the Canes asking for $3.5 million per like he was some sort of sure thing 1B split goalie.
The Canes elected to move on from Mrazek and the complete unknown that was Ned (and Reimer as a backup) and brought in 2 vets for the same money. One of those vets had a bad but injury plagued season (Andersen) and the other of course is just injury prone (Raanta). I have no idea how that will work out, but just about every goalie the Canes bring in does better than they did the seasons before they got here (save for Scott Darling, which was just a disaster from the get go).
My points are simply:
Petr Mrazek is an average NHL goalie who by no means is a certainty to be any better than Freddie Andersen in any given season.
Freddie Andersen had a bad season last year, but the reality is that season was an outlier to his career numbers (yeah he could be done, but that isn't a certainty).
The Nedeljkovic decision cannot really be fairly evaluated until he plays this season. Lots of folks seem absolutely certain that the Canes just let a great goalie go for nothing. Well they waived him multiple times and no one claimed him, and for the CANES to pay him $3+ million for 23 regular season games with great numbers played against just 7 other teams, not knowing if he is really that great goalie or the guy who looked average for his entire career up to that point, was something they didn't feel was the right move. (Detroit can take that chance and pay that money, they are not a Cup contender at the moment).
The Leafs HAD to move on from Freddie Andersen (no doubt)
It seems that some on the Leafs board are convinced that every move the Canes make is a bad one. At some point, yes, you have to think some of these really bold/against the grain moves will bite us in the ass. But the Canes have 3 straight trips to the playoffs and 4 series wins. They have jettisoned players like Jeff Skinner and Justin Faulk right before those players were way overpaid elsewhere. They elected not to pay Dougie big bucks well into his 30s (I suspect 'playoff Dougie' was a big factor in that decision). They elected to change their goalie mix.
No one knows how this all shakes out in the end. We will see. But what I do know is that until this group in the Canes front office finally has a season where they 'got it all wrong', its a bit over the top to call any Canes offseason a bad one. And I'm pretty confident that the Leafs goaltending situation going into this season is not really a sure fire .910-.915 because Mrazek is in and Freddie is out.
I think the Leafs would have been better off with Ned playing behind or in tandem with Campbell who by all accounts will be given a chance to be the lead dog in net. For a team that needs to squeeze just about every dollar with their cap crunch, Ned would have been a cheaper option with just as much of a chance to provide a tandem role as Mrazek with more long term upside. I agree with CMal, Mrazek is an average goalie that seemed to do very well with that new contract both in dollars and term that I do not think will live up to the hype.Agree with you on almost everything. Leafs didn't have to move on from Andersen. They chose to.
Which puts you in the distinct minority of outside observers. Yes he was a Calder finalist, yes he had a great season. But to somehow extrapolate that into the 2nd coming of Georges Vezina requires a superhuman leap of faith, one that almost all who followed the team since he’s been in the organization weren’t willing to take.I was never sold in Ned. Jag flash in the pan written on him kinda like Jonas Gustavsson.