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2022 NHL Playoffs Round Two Series Thread ... Canes vs Rangers

Canes had 54 points on the road, tied for 2nd with Calgary and Florida, behind Washington at 56. That included winning 5 of the last 6 on the road, losing only to the Avs. It also included the 3 games in 4 days rampage through Newark, Elmont and Manhattan. And now they can’t get out of their own way.
 
andyt said:
Canes had 54 points on the road, tied for 2nd with Calgary and Florida, behind Washington at 56. That included winning 5 of the last 6 on the road, losing only to the Avs. It also included the 3 games in 4 days rampage through Newark, Elmont and Manhattan. And now they can’t get out of their own way.
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They will find the pebble on the road and then somehow pop all their tires..
 
cmaleski2 said:
This has been hard to watch.

This team was good on the road the entire season. With 4 lines capable of scoring, we created matchup issues all over the place on the road. In the playoffs we have seen absolutely nothing remotely close to what we should be seeing. Our abilities just to complete passes are terrible. There is almost no danger at all from any lines. Our vaunted PK gives up at least one a game and our own PPs are incredibly predictable and easy to stop.

Even the games we won in this series we barely scraped by with almost no offense at all. You can't just lose every game on the road an expect to win 4 games at home every time. That leaves zero margin for error. We are lucky to not be down 3-1 in this series.

The team that played those 3 road games vs. Boston and the team playing this series vs. the Rangers looks nothing like the dominating 'best ever' Hurricanes squad that rolled through the regular season.

I don't know what the answer is, there might not be an answer. Sure seems like everyone has figured out both our PP and our PK and we are incapable of making adjustments. Our forecheck is ineffective, no one has the skill to bury chances, and no one is ever in position to get to a rebound. Pretty maddening.

It sure feels like we are down in this series, even though we are not. The team is definitely not giving anyone positive vibes about how the rest of this series goes. Is there ANYONE on this team capable of rallying the troops? Anyone on this team capable of changing the fortunes of our PP? Anyone on this team that can score on a breakaway, or execute a shot into a wide open net in the rare instances we see one? Is ANYONE willing to pay the price in front of the net?

Sure would be a good time for a Justin WIlliams like playoff hero to emerge and start to consistently produce.
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Great questions on rallying the troops and paying the price and executing...this team is so freaking fragile when any adversity strikes...the players they hoped to provide offense have been dismal...KK, Necas, Svech, Trochek...those guys have done next to nothing for very long stretches...the passion and will is not there...I see a bunch of individual efforts from guys like TDA and Slavin and Aho and Jarvis but no one is really pulling this bunch together with real leadership...the power play entries are horrible, the passes are comical, the power play lives on the perimeter with no one really willing to pay the price in the dirty areas where the goals are scored in the playoffs...you need leadership, execution, hunger...none of that has really been there this series...if I had to single out one guy that has stepped up it's Raanta, the rest of them should do some soul searching before Thursday night.
 
The Canes need to come out and hit any and everything in blue tomorrow night. And let the game flow from there. I'm seeing a very timid team over the last several games.
 
FYI I have an extra pair of near-center-ice tickets available (103-W) for tomorrow's Game 5. (Edit: $250/ea for 1 or 2 seats) Cheapest pair of tickets I see on the West/East lower level concourses on the TM exchange.

(Got 'em for my mom & stepdad who arrived a couple days ago for a long visit, but she had ta go and get the Rona before I could even bring her to the PNC superspreader zone.)
 
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So I missed the Trouba hit on Domi. But all I kept hearing was that it was Domi's fault for falling and hitting Trouba's elbow with his head. I've now seem the film. Should be a suspension. Period.
 
TheBigKahuna said:
So I missed the Trouba hit on Domi. But all I kept hearing was that it was Domi's fault for falling and hitting Trouba's elbow with his head. I've now seem the film. Should be a suspension. Period.
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Trouba did not extend the elbow. It was tucked against his body. He only extended it after the hit. So it's not elbowing. Charging would be a better fit. I don't really doubt that Trouba saw it was Domi and lined him up. But I don't see that either. Bottom line for me: If the sweaters were reversed I'd be arguing its a clean hit. Hard, and intended be hard, but clean from a rule perspective. Definitely not a suspension.

If Domi doesn't hack Lindgren, then Trouba doesn't wax Domi, and Lorentz doesn't get the instigator (which he deserved). We got frustrated and got stupid and made undisciplined mistakes. The Rangers played us and got a PPG out of it.
 
All I've seen for 2 years is a Canes team get slashed, whacked, elbowed, punched, tripped and tackled without drawing many penalties. The second one of our guys does anything, clean or not, it's a penalty. And now we have a timid team that gets abused every night because the officating is attrocius and lopsided. No way that Trouba his was clean and not intended to injure.
 
bagopux said:
Trouba did not extend the elbow. It was tucked against his body. He only extended it after the hit. So it's not elbowing. Charging would be a better fit. I don't really doubt that Trouba saw it was Domi and lined him up. But I don't see that either. Bottom line for me: If the sweaters were reversed I'd be arguing its a clean hit. Hard, and intended be hard, but clean from a rule perspective. Definitely not a suspension.

If Domi doesn't hack Lindgren, then Trouba doesn't wax Domi, and Lorentz doesn't get the instigator (which he deserved). We got frustrated and got stupid and made undisciplined mistakes. The Rangers played us and got a PPG out of it.
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My only issue with the hit (other than point of contact, which I would concede was complicated by Domi falling) was that Trouba just exploded upward with both legs through contact. The hit isn't through the body, it's aimed VERY high with all the power Trouba could muster. If Domi is upright, that's a snuff shot. Suspension? Not in this league. Not unless Domi had been knocked out.

Lorentz? Meh. People seem to want guys to immediately stand up for teammates, and that's what you get sometimes. If Loretz shows up hot and hits Trouba with a hip check or even just slashes him, then there's no instigator, but Stevie has always had a problems finding that line. I immediately flashed back to him getting tossed from a game in Charlotte during their Cup run for a similar incident when he nearly decapitated a dude.
 
polarbare said:
This and the inability to clear the defensive zone was so apparent last night.
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Yeah ... too many passes missed their target an all three zones. Some of it was from NY's pressure, but a lot of it was just missing the mark. Either not reading the other guy's intentions or making a decision too late or just chucking and hoping ... bad passes filled the house.
 
jeffbear said:
My only issue with the hit (other than point of contact, which I would concede was complicated by Domi falling) was that Trouba just exploded upward with both legs through contact. The hit isn't through the body, it's aimed VERY high with all the power Trouba could muster. If Domi is upright, that's a snuff shot. Suspension? Not in this league. Not unless Domi had been knocked out.

Lorentz? Meh. People seem to want guys to immediately stand up for teammates, and that's what you get sometimes. If Loretz shows up hot and hits Trouba with a hip check or even just slashes him, then there's no instigator, but Stevie has always had a problems finding that line. I immediately flashed back to him getting tossed from a game in Charlotte during their Cup run for a similar incident when he nearly decapitated a dude.
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Not a suspendible hit, should have been a minor.

As for clearing the zone, I don’t think the Canes cleared the zone at all on the Rangers first power play. There are far too many slaps at the puck and no cohesion.
 
TheBigKahuna said:
So I missed the Trouba hit on Domi. But all I kept hearing was that it was Domi's fault for falling and hitting Trouba's elbow with his head. I've now seem the film. Should be a suspension. Period.
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I know. He recklessly endangered Troubas elbow.
 
andyt said:
As for clearing the zone, I don’t think the Canes cleared the zone at all on the Rangers first power play. There are far too many slaps at the puck and no cohesion.
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At least twice on that kill, a Canes player made a hopeful pass in the general direction of a teammate that was either woefully off line or mis-hit. I might have been one of their worse kills of the season and it's a miracle they didn't barf up a goal until later. Ironically they were much more cohesive on that second kill but failed to shut down the seam pass on Vatrano's goal.
 
andyt said:
Not a suspendible hit, should have been a minor.

As for clearing the zone, I don’t think the Canes cleared the zone at all on the Rangers first power play. There are far too many slaps at the puck and no cohesion.
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IIRC, we won the faceoff and cleared the zone but after the Rangers entered again, we were stuck there for the duration.
 
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