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2023 Draft and UFA Thread

CH1 said:
4th Hab picked that year...better than all three picked higher x 1000 (McCarron, DeLaRose, Fucale)
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The best Hab drafted out of 7 top-60 picks from 2012 & 2013 drafts and the only one that established a lasting NHL career
 
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Seriously, not enough people play hockey, plus they get drafted very young, so the average NHL draft class is pretty crap with the odd lucky pick here and there. But the league wants more teams while the amateur pool stays stagnant
 
Sal_Butera said:
The best Hab drafted out of 7 top-60 picks from 2012 & 2013 drafts and the only one that established a lasting NHL career
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Lehkonen is pretty much the best pick the Habs made between Gallagher and Caufield (maybe the only good one), not counting the one they traded right away (Sergachev).
 
Sal_Butera said:
The Athletic’s latest draft ranking:

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2023 NHL Draft ranking: Connor Bedard is still No. 1, but who has moved up?

Connor Bedard tops Corey Pronman's March ranking of the top prospects at the 2023 NHL Draft.
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Tier 1: Bedard comparable Pastrnak

Tier 2: Michkov comparable Kucherov & Fantilli comparable Toews

Tier 4: Carlsson comparable Rantanen

Then drops to Tier 6 starting with Danielson @ 5OA
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The last time the Habs had a top pick he had Zadina at 3, kk at 4.

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Pronman's 2018 NHL draft rankings: Top 74 prospects

What follows is my opinion of the prospects eligible for the 2018 NHL draft, with each prospect ranked with an accompanying scouting report.
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CH1 said:
Seriously, not enough people play hockey, plus they get drafted very young, so the average NHL draft class is pretty crap with the odd lucky pick here and there. But the league wants more teams while the amateur pool stays stagnant
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I don't think it's a question of participation rate. There are more people who play basketball worldwide than hockey, but the NBA draft is a complete shitshow compared to the NHL. It's not a coincidence it's only two rounds. Part of it is the scarcity of jobs available in the NBA, and another part of it is players in the NBA just need to be a certain size to be even considered. Human beings that aren't 6 foot tall are disqualified by default, unless you're an all-time talented point guard like Chris Paul. Not to mention the NBA has such a significantly higher rate of serious injuries because the players are, well, literal giants.

One of the benefits that the NBA has in their draft is the vast majority of the eligible players are in the NCAA, with the odd exceptions here & there in Europe.

Take the first eight players drafted last season in the NHL in comparison: Slaf (Finnish league), Nemac (Slovakia), Cooley (USNP), Wright (OHL), Gauthier (USNP), Jiricek (Czech), Korchinski (WHL), Kasper (Sweden). Eight different players in 7 different leagues with different levels of competition, rule sets, styles of play, ice rink surfaces, schedules... Not to mention none of them played head to head in international competitions.

Beyond an educated guess, how is anyone supposed to know who of the bunch is going to be better? One of the reasons I don't watch prospects beyond work keeping me busy is how frustrating it is to have to guess so damn often.

I'm of the belief that the draft should be abolished, but if we're going to keep the draft, we should be drafting players who are 19 years old, possibly even 20 years old.

It's also why I will stand by those who are more often right than not when it comes identifying players.
 
GGpX said:
I don't think it's a question of participation rate. There are more people who play basketball worldwide than hockey, but the NBA draft is a complete shitshow compared to the NHL. It's not a coincidence it's only two rounds. Part of it is the scarcity of jobs available in the NBA, and another part of it is players in the NBA just need to be a certain size to be even considered. Human beings that aren't 6 foot tall are disqualified by default, unless you're an all-time talented point guard like Chris Paul. Not to mention the NBA has such a significantly higher rate of serious injuries because the players are, well, literal giants.

One of the benefits that the NBA has in their draft is the vast majority of the eligible players are in the NCAA, with the odd exceptions here & there in Europe.

Take the first eight players drafted last season in the NHL in comparison: Slaf (Finnish league), Nemac (Slovakia), Cooley (USNP), Wright (OHL), Gauthier (USNP), Jiricek (Czech), Korchinski (WHL), Kasper (Sweden). Eight different players in 7 different leagues with different levels of competition, rule sets, styles of play, ice rink surfaces, schedules... Not to mention none of them played head to head in international competitions.

Beyond an educated guess, how is anyone supposed to know who of the bunch is going to be better? One of the reasons I don't watch prospects beyond work keeping me busy is how frustrating it is to have to guess so damn often.

I'm of the belief that the draft should be abolished, but if we're going to keep the draft, we should be drafting players who are 19 years old, possibly even 20 years old.

It's also why I will stand by those who are more often right than not when it comes identifying players.
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Simon Boisvert seems to have been right again this year….
 
I have high hopes for

Beck
Roy
Farrell
Hutson

Moderate hope for

Kidney
Mailloux
Slafkovsky (something is smelling off there)
Mesar
Dobes

some hope for

Kapanen
Engstrom
Mysak

that’s how I would categorize our prospects

Anyone playing regularly right now not included like RHP, Barron etc.
 
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Need a stud LHD and a top line center. Sounds familiar.

Also need to hammer down the goaltending.
 
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