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2023 Draft and UFA Thread
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MON4NHLTOR4MLB
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They won’t all be there. Some will be used as trade bait, Gally should be shot to the moon in a cannon. How many useless big 3rd liners do you want in the lineup? At least those small guys can score and skate. Who would you rather have Caufield or Slaf?
If you have 5 Caufields in your top 9 , your golfing every April
You need balance , and comparing Cole to Slaf after 1 injury season is not a fair comparison
Playoffs is a war of attrition and physicality takes over
I will take Brady Tkachuk over Cole for a deeper playoff run
Sure but a point a game Brady who scores 35 a year and plays 200 feet with physicality and net presence for me is better than Cole
GrandWazoo
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Brady hasn't even seen the playoffs in 5 seasons.
Stinky
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Cole? Hmmmm. Finals? Right? Whether they deserved it or not, he was there. Under the bright lights of the big show. I love what we have in him and Nick.
GrandWazoo
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Big clutch plays too.
Stinky
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I don’t want them to get too far from there. I think he and Nick are special players. I think Suzuki is terribly underrated for what he brings and how he plays. Those two played big roles at a young age. I think this team can have some swagger. I think they’ll challenge for a while card spot next year.
Not if they keep the same same doctors and trainers.
GrandWazoo
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As Krusty said, IF healthy, I think we’ll be in the wild card race as well.
I see 10-12th next year in the lottery , lets see what Hugo is up too this summer
GrandWazoo
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That puts us in the 80s point range, which is about fair, but yeah there is a whole big summer ahead of us, and we have a lot of cap space for the first time in about ever.
worm
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Well - we have the 5th best odds.
So we pick one of 1,2,5,6,7 and then again at 16ish
If we pick number 1 - hello Bedard - have said enough about him
Number 2
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Fantilli is not Bedard but he is pretty damn good.
6'2 centre
Led U of Michigan in scoring - Luke Hughes was second with 48 points
Last year's pick Cooley only had 60 points this year - obviously he is a year older
Matty Beniers in his draft year only had 24 points in 24 games (post draft he had 43 in 38games) - this year he had 57 NHL points in 80 games
Summary - really good back up plan to Bedard
Number 5, 6, 7
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Here is where it gets interesting
Michkov - might be around at 5,6, or 7.
I take Michkov and wait the 3 years
RW 5′ 10″ | 172 pounds
Basically an offensive wizard.
I am not exactly sure how to compare russian players but let me try
in the KHL
Kucherov had 2 assists in 8 khl games in his draft year and 4 points in 18 games his post draft year - then did a year in the Q
also fuck putin
Carlsson - only chance at number 5
C, 6′ 3″ | 198 pounds
Maybe somebody goes off the board and somebody takes Michkov - probably unlikely he falls to us even at 5...but it is possible
Some comparables
Lucas Raymond - 10 points in 33 games - draft year
Elias Pettersson - post draft year 56 points in 44 games
William Nylander - 7 points in 22 games
Not the best skating and has been a winger a lot - so not convinced he will be a C in the NHL
William Smith - assume he is there at 5, but not sure about 6 or 7
C 5′ 11.75″ | 178 pounds
Cooley had 36 points in 24 games his draft year
I will lump together the CHL guys in this range
Nate Danielson, C (WHL)
6′ 1.5″ | 185 pounds
Seems like a classic 2 way centre
Colby Barlow, LW (OHL)
6′ 0.25″ | 193 pounds
Samuel Honzek, LW, (WHL)
6′ 3.5″ | 186 pounds
One of the few big options in this range
Brayden Yager, C (WHL)
5′ 10.5″ | 166 pounds
Zach Benson, LW (WHL)
5′ 9.0″ | 160 pounds
Small guy but those point totals are impressive - even outscored last years 9th overall pick on his team (Savoie) and Geekie
For comparison - here is suzuki in his draft year
Danil But, LW, (RUSSIA)
6′ 5.0″ | 203 pounds
For count - and hey with the russia factor maybe he is around at the panthers pick
And with a name like that...
2 points in 15 KHL games
Dalibor Dvorsky, C, (SWEDEN-2)
6′ 1.0″ | 201 pounds
Did okay at the last 2 world juniors
Also folks like Reinbacher , Cristall, Moore, Leonard, Sale, Wood
If we picked at 5 it is probably Michkov or the fresh prince (outside shot for Carlsoon)
If we drop to 6 we would need some off the board picks to get a smith or michkov but if we end up 6 or 7 there will be a ton of choices - from all about the points like benson to some safer picks like Honzek - scouting staff will have to work
The good news is there shoud actually be some high upside guys with the panthers pick
So we pick one of 1,2,5,6,7 and then again at 16ish
If we pick number 1 - hello Bedard - have said enough about him
Number 2
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Fantilli is not Bedard but he is pretty damn good.
6'2 centre
| 36gp | 30g | 35a | 65pts |
Last year's pick Cooley only had 60 points this year - obviously he is a year older
Matty Beniers in his draft year only had 24 points in 24 games (post draft he had 43 in 38games) - this year he had 57 NHL points in 80 games
Summary - really good back up plan to Bedard
Number 5, 6, 7
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Here is where it gets interesting
Michkov - might be around at 5,6, or 7.
I take Michkov and wait the 3 years
RW 5′ 10″ | 172 pounds
Basically an offensive wizard.
I am not exactly sure how to compare russian players but let me try
in the KHL
| 27gp | 9g | 11a | 20pts |
also fuck putin
Carlsson - only chance at number 5
C, 6′ 3″ | 198 pounds
Maybe somebody goes off the board and somebody takes Michkov - probably unlikely he falls to us even at 5...but it is possible
| 44gp | 10g | 15a | 25pts |
Some comparables
Lucas Raymond - 10 points in 33 games - draft year
Elias Pettersson - post draft year 56 points in 44 games
William Nylander - 7 points in 22 games
Not the best skating and has been a winger a lot - so not convinced he will be a C in the NHL
William Smith - assume he is there at 5, but not sure about 6 or 7
C 5′ 11.75″ | 178 pounds
| 20gp | 15g | 27A | 42PTS |
Cooley had 36 points in 24 games his draft year
I will lump together the CHL guys in this range
Nate Danielson, C (WHL)
6′ 1.5″ | 185 pounds
| 68gp | 33g | 45a | 78pt |
Colby Barlow, LW (OHL)
6′ 0.25″ | 193 pounds
| 59gp | 46g | 33a | 79pts |
Samuel Honzek, LW, (WHL)
6′ 3.5″ | 186 pounds
| 43gp | 23g | 33a | 56pt |
Brayden Yager, C (WHL)
5′ 10.5″ | 166 pounds
| 67gp | 28g | 50A | 78pts |
Zach Benson, LW (WHL)
5′ 9.0″ | 160 pounds
| 60gp | 36g | 62a | 98pts |
For comparison - here is suzuki in his draft year
| 65gp | 45g | 51a | 96pts |
Danil But, LW, (RUSSIA)
6′ 5.0″ | 203 pounds
For count - and hey with the russia factor maybe he is around at the panthers pick
And with a name like that...
2 points in 15 KHL games
Dalibor Dvorsky, C, (SWEDEN-2)
6′ 1.0″ | 201 pounds
Did okay at the last 2 world juniors
Also folks like Reinbacher , Cristall, Moore, Leonard, Sale, Wood
If we picked at 5 it is probably Michkov or the fresh prince (outside shot for Carlsoon)
If we drop to 6 we would need some off the board picks to get a smith or michkov but if we end up 6 or 7 there will be a ton of choices - from all about the points like benson to some safer picks like Honzek - scouting staff will have to work
The good news is there shoud actually be some high upside guys with the panthers pick
big Russian, sure sign me up
not sure about that, Trudeau is more virulently anti-Russia than Biden is. Hell our foreign minister is calling for Russian regime change
Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
If we're 7 they'll probably do Dvorsky or Sale