2024-25 Canes Miscellaneous Thread
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HeyKurtz
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Lots o' speculation about a pending fire sale in Pittsburgh...
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Outside of the players cited as "untouchable" in the article--Crosby, Malkin, Rust, Tomasino, and Pickering--Rakell may be the only one on that roster that I think would be an interesting acquisition, especially if we can move KK. Rackell does, however, have an 8-team no trade clause.
Report: Fire Sale Imminent For Pittsburgh Penguins, Big Name Vets on the Block
The Penguins are open to trade anyone except Crosby, Malkin, Rust, Tomasino, and Pickering. Are big moves ahead before the NHL Trade Deadline?
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Outside of the players cited as "untouchable" in the article--Crosby, Malkin, Rust, Tomasino, and Pickering--Rakell may be the only one on that roster that I think would be an interesting acquisition, especially if we can move KK. Rackell does, however, have an 8-team no trade clause.
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Ummm. Wasn’t the whole team?
Rakell is also packing 3 more seasons at a $5 million AAV. Pass.Lots o' speculation about a pending fire sale in Pittsburgh...
Report: Fire Sale Imminent For Pittsburgh Penguins, Big Name Vets on the Block
The Penguins are open to trade anyone except Crosby, Malkin, Rust, Tomasino, and Pickering. Are big moves ahead before the NHL Trade Deadline?
Outside of the players cited as "untouchable" in the article--Crosby, Malkin, Rust, Tomasino, and Pickering--Rakell may be the only one on that roster that I think would be an interesting acquisition, especially if we can move KK. Rackell does, however, have an 8-team no trade clause.
HeyKurtz
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But if PIT retains 40-50% of that, he would be a relatively inexpensive source of production. He's also only 31.
cmaleski2
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J.T. Miller is also likely available if the Canucks can find a trade partner and convince JT to waive his full NMC (which all the rumblings seem to indicate he is willing to do). His contract situation is even more dire though. He is on season 2 of a 7 year deal with an AAV of $8 million. He also turns 32 in March, so his contract runs until he will be 37.
While Rakell would be a scoring upgrade, he is a winger. He also has an unusually high shooting percentage this season, which screams 'regression'. J.T. Miller is a legit center who would immediately plug right into the Canes 2nd line center spot. Miller is also ++ at the dot.
I don't like Miller's contract or his age, but he sure would fit a major need for the Canes. If KK went out as part of the trade (along with one of our top prospects not named Nikishin and probably a 1st round pick, at a minimum), the increased cap hit with JT Miller would likely be worth it.
While Rakell would be a scoring upgrade, he is a winger. He also has an unusually high shooting percentage this season, which screams 'regression'. J.T. Miller is a legit center who would immediately plug right into the Canes 2nd line center spot. Miller is also ++ at the dot.
I don't like Miller's contract or his age, but he sure would fit a major need for the Canes. If KK went out as part of the trade (along with one of our top prospects not named Nikishin and probably a 1st round pick, at a minimum), the increased cap hit with JT Miller would likely be worth it.
HeyKurtz
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Agreed that Miller would be a better--albeit much more expensive in terms of assets that we would have to give up for him--option. While Rackell has been playing wing for PIT, he has played center (which he did for at least some of his time in ANA), and Puckpedia even lists him as a center.
HeyKurtz
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I'll also add that there has been widespread reports of a potential Miller deal falling apart between VAN and NYR. It apparently did not get far enough along for Miller to be asked to waive his NTC.
CanadaCanes
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The Athletic had a nice piece on four potential trade destination places/packages for JT Miller and the Canes were one of those destinations.
They had KK, Artamonov, a first rounder and a second headed to the Canucks in a hypothetical package for Miller.
They had KK, Artamonov, a first rounder and a second headed to the Canucks in a hypothetical package for Miller.
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cmaleski2
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Rakell has taken more than 100 faceoffs in a single NHL season 5 times:
14-15 665 faceoffs 46.6%
15-16 451 faceoffs 43.7%
17-18 226 faceoffs 46.5%
13-14 194 faceoffs 49.0%
16-17 147 faceoffs 42.2%
Faceoffs are not the only indicator of course on how much a forward plays center, but if you are taking less than 5 draws a game, you probably are not playing much center. Not saying Rakell couldn't be a center, but Anaheim didn't have him as a regular center and of course Pittsburgh has no need for him at center.
14-15 665 faceoffs 46.6%
15-16 451 faceoffs 43.7%
17-18 226 faceoffs 46.5%
13-14 194 faceoffs 49.0%
16-17 147 faceoffs 42.2%
Faceoffs are not the only indicator of course on how much a forward plays center, but if you are taking less than 5 draws a game, you probably are not playing much center. Not saying Rakell couldn't be a center, but Anaheim didn't have him as a regular center and of course Pittsburgh has no need for him at center.
cmaleski2
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I would probably make that trade if I was the Canes. Vancouver would have to retain though to make the cap numbers work?
II guess I would be worried about JT Miller's locker room presence. He seems pretty high strung and disruptive. Then again, is that him or a lack of fire from his Vancouver teammates?
I don't know exactly what the Canes long term plan is for all of this cap room they are going to have to play with next season. We need SOMEONE to be our 2C next season (and we sure could use an upgrade THIS season). That 2C doesn't appear to be in the system at the moment.
CanadaCanes
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The other guy I like in that same role is Kadri…$7m per with four years left after this season and a left shot but still a gritty, disruptive type of center that would be a decent fit.
Supposedly, the Rangers offered Chytil, Lindgren and “future-focused assets”. They had previously offered Zibanejad straight up.
On Sportsnet.ca, Jason Bukala suggests the following
To Vancouver: Martin Necas, Spencer Martin, 2025 second-round pick
To Carolina: J.T. Miller, Arturs Silovs
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On Sportsnet.ca, Jason Bukala suggests the following
To Vancouver: Martin Necas, Spencer Martin, 2025 second-round pick
To Carolina: J.T. Miller, Arturs Silovs
Scout's Analysis: A blueprint for how the Canucks should approach trades
As the Canucks hang on in the playoff picture amid inconsistent play, scout Jason Bukala reports back from his own west coast road trip with a plan for how the Canucks should handle three of their most talked about trade assets.
cmaleski2
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No thanks on that Bukala offering, although Silovs at least would give us a different legit #3. I'm not keen on removing Necas. Even though that deal gives us the #2 center we need, who makes up for Necas' offense? Miller isn't exactly a dynamic goal scorer out there. Unless the thinking is that Miller could unlock something in Svech?
That also keeps KK here....
That also keeps KK here....
Fayettenamcanesfan
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I’m not up for letting 88 go. No sir. KK has to be in any deal to somewhere. ESPN is reporting the canes interest in Miller as well now
I mean Miller is a 31 point guy and is 31 and as much as I’d like another Arturs in Raleigh, How is that worth 88, Martin and a 2nd rounder.
I mean Miller is a 31 point guy and is 31 and as much as I’d like another Arturs in Raleigh, How is that worth 88, Martin and a 2nd rounder.
Only 31 points in 35 games this year, but over a point per game guy the last 3 seasons. Including 103 pts last season.
Fayettenamcanesfan
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At 31 he’s still not worth it. But, I trust Tulsky. The guy is an analytical savant and if he thinks it’s worth it then ok. But I think he can be had for less
Pucking Lamplighter
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So, all I needed to do was call him out & it lit the fire under him? Apologies for not doing it sooner. Who's next?
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Drury, then Svech.