Around the League 2019-2024 Edition

[leafman101]

I don't know if they smartened up last deadline and bought low on an undervalued player, or just made the same mistake and traded for a name with down trending stats and got lucky.

I could totally see them paying for Toews or ROR.

 

[Hoss]

only one person mentioned Barbashev so far, but that would be a sneaky good add at probably a less-than-premium cost.

You best be talking about me

 

[LeafOfFaith]

he's effectively a pending UFA because of his QO

That'd be up to us, though.

 

[LeafOfFaith]

My other source says Leaf’s love Toews

Since when are Krispy Kremes sources of anything other than malnutrition?

 

[LeafOfFaith]

Nick Foligno has really made me cautious about bringing in someone because they used to play good. I'm way more sensitive toward a player's current form now, and Toews' form is pretty shit this season.

Shit, my interest has even gone cold on Kane because of that. I always thought Toews was overrated garbage anyway.

 

[Artnes]

 

[MyNameIsJonas]

Since when are Krispy Kremes sources of anything other than malnutrition?

Hallucinating properties if you eat enough and mix with tears and zeke

 

[LeafOfFaith]

Just call it the season in this year of season ending injuries.

 

[Artnes]

 

[LeafOfFaith]

Cliff, consider yourself fallen off.
-P. Kane

 

[MindzEye]

Like I said man...how a guy is playing before the trade is muy importante. Fuck all this shit about trading for guys because they used to be beasts. Acquire good hockey players, not lightning in a bottle you hope for.

 

[leafman101]

You can acquire a player playing like shit and have it work out, but it has to be at a discount (e.g. Gio/Hall).

 

[MindzEye]

Gio was playing fine though, no?

To your broader point, yeah. You want to see signs that the player just needs sweet sweet regression to the mean though. Hall was shooting 2.3% in Buffalo before the trade and there really wasn't much wrong with his assist rate (oish% was a bit low, but not much). There was really only a few possibilities. 1) Taylor Hall has forgotten how to shoot a hockey puck after a decade as a 20-30 goal scorer 2) Taylor Hall is playing with an injury that makes him unable to shoot a hockey puck....easy enough to spot with pro scouting 3) Taylor Hall has been super fucking unlucky and will regress to the mean eventually.

Kane's shooting % is low this season, but it's not crazy low compared to the last few years (which makes this look like a general decline in actual shooting skill) and his oiSH% is also a bit low by Kane standards, but not crazy low (about 2% off of normal Kane).

This just looks like the general decline of Patrick Kane tbh. Pass.

 

[JackBurton]

Maybe they will miss the playoffs. Hope Eichel plays in a playoff game before his career ends. And unfortunately for him, Buffalo has the next great young core to win a cup.

 

[MindzEye]

Buffalo has the next great young core to win a cup.

 

[Habsy]

Tage fucking Thompson

 

[JackBurton]

Dahlin and Power will shred teams for years to come. I might pick them to win division next year.
And remember, I called New Jersey this year.

 

[MindzEye]

The forward group is good not great, their current oiSH% is unsustainable, full stop. Thomson-Tuch-Cozens-Skinner is not a cup winning forward core, their goaltending prospects look like a flop at the moment and their bridging of Dahlin is going to bite them in the ass to the tune of 11+ million shortly. Most of their depth kids are junk and their management are the types that would sign Lyubushkin to a free agent contract for actual dollars and term so they're really likely to spend poorly in free agency chasing "leadership" and other bullshit that teams constantly get wrong.

At current they're a ~90 point team with most of their important players actually in their prime (starting G, 4 of their top 5 forwards). If there's a truth as certain as death, it's that Buffalo is always right around the corner from getting it right this time. They only time they did get it right was because they were right place right time on the historic fluke that was Hasek breaking out in his late 20's into a small god.

Shit city, shit fans, shit managemet, shit franchise.

 

[Wayward DP]

Gio was playing fine though, no?

To your broader point, yeah. You want to see signs that the player just needs sweet sweet regression to the mean though. Hall was shooting 2.3% in Buffalo before the trade and there really wasn't much wrong with his assist rate (oish% was a bit low, but not much). There was really only a few possibilities. 1) Taylor Hall has forgotten how to shoot a hockey puck after a decade as a 20-30 goal scorer 2) Taylor Hall is playing with an injury that makes him unable to shoot a hockey puck....easy enough to spot with pro scouting 3) Taylor Hall has been super fucking unlucky and will regress to the mean eventually.

Kane's shooting % is low this season, but it's not crazy low compared to the last few years (which makes this look like a general decline in actual shooting skill) and his oiSH% is also a bit low by Kane standards, but not crazy low (about 2% off of normal Kane).

This just looks like the general decline of Patrick Kane tbh. Pass.

could also be him just not giving a fuck, but dunno how you can distinguish between those options

 

[MindzEye]

could also be him just not giving a fuck, but dunno how you can distinguish between those options

Ya can't with guys over 31-32, which is the problem. You're making a bet this isn't father time continuing his undefeated streak.

Which is fine if you're not giving up much and making the bet in the summer, with runway to evaluate and change gears, but as an over the top contender move, look elsewhere