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Around the League 2019-2024 Edition

zeke said:
Mrazek was owed $8.6m real money with 2yrs of $3.8 caphit, and he was both injured and legit terrible while Murray is injured and just ok.

Mrazek cost us like 10 spots in the draft.

also, we got a 2nd and 3rd with Murray when we traded for him.
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Fair enough. The Mrazek cap dump was cheap enough, though I think you’re always going to pay more to dump a big cap hit/salary in one season vs a similar total amount spread over two years.


JackBurton said:
Gotta dump him. Woll will be 25 next year. He has to play. There's a few guys that need real time with the Leafs next year.
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It’s not even just a question of playing time for Woll. Starting next season, he will no longer be waiver-exempt. So if he’s not one of our two NHL goalies, then we either have to trade him or lose him for nothing.

So yeah, Murray’s got to go. Even if the best case scenario for him happens and he gets healthy and has some kind of renaissance in this year’s playoffs.
 
If they’d just adhered to the goalies are assholes rule, they’d have rolled the dice on some other cheaper or one year guy, and not been in this situation. Murray had a high likelihood of being an asshole.
 
Wayward DP said:
so that’s not really a viable option either
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Putting large cap hits in the minors hasn’t made much sense to do since the NHL closed the loophole that let you bury 100% of the cap hit in the AHL.

A trade or a buyout are our only viable options for Murray, I think, assuming that Murray will be determined to play next season and LTIR won’t be an option.
 
LeafGm said:
Putting large cap hits in the minors hasn’t made much sense to do since the NHL closed the loophole that let you bury 100% of the cap hit in the AHL.

A trade or a buyout are our only viable options for Murray, I think, assuming that Murray will be determined to play next season and LTIR won’t be an option.
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I imagine we'll end up keeping him. Is Woll signed? They may just carry three goalies. But we'll likely be into LTIR before the season starts anyhow (thanks Jake!)
 
Maybe we can deal him to a team that needs a vet G for some expiring forward who’s maybe overpaid at $4.5m or so and coming off a bad year.
 
Wayward DP said:
I imagine we'll end up keeping him. Is Woll signed? They may just carry three goalies. But we'll likely be into LTIR before the season starts anyhow (thanks Jake!)
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Yeah, Woll is signed for the next two seasons for $766K.

And I disagree—I can’t imagine them carrying a $4.8M cap hit and using up an extra roster spot for the sake of their third-best goalie. Especially with Samsonov also due a raise.

Once they get Samsonov re-signed, I think they’ll trade Murray for sure. And if they somehow fail to do that, they’ll buy Murray out (which would only be a $687K cap hit next year and $2M in 24/25).
 
LeafGm said:
Yeah, Woll is signed for the next two seasons for $766K.

And I disagree—I can’t imagine them carrying a $4.8M cap hit and using up an extra roster spot for the sake of their third-best goalie. Especially with Samsonov also due a raise.

Once they get Samsonov re-signed, I think they’ll trade Murray for sure. And if they somehow fail to do that, they’ll buy Murray out (which would only be a $687K cap hit next year and $2M in 24/25).
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whatever spiritual dance was done to convince themselves that Murray was a good buy low candidate last offseason can likely be repeated this year, is my concern.
 
I'm saying, if he stays on LTIR and is done, and that $5.6m and Murray's $4.7M could be used...

That'd make for one fine $10M forward (maybe named Meier).
 
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