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There are definitely people in the game who still don't believe in or trust analytics. You can imagine this was much more prevalent 10 years ago in 2014 when Dubie was hired. If there was an anti-Dubas "movement", it likely had a lot to do with distrust of advanced stats and the "nerds taking over".

Also he was young and not a former NHL player, which breaks the brain of certain neanderthal types.
 
Wayward DP said:
good coach, but like any has limitations and blind spots.

and as time went on, instead of learning and improving, the opposite seemed to happen. he just doubled down on dumb shit. his comfort blankets are gudpro vets. didn't play the kids. stopped trying to score goals. etc.
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You just described obtuse
 
axlsalinger said:
There are definitely people in the game who still don't believe in or trust analytics. You can imagine this was much more prevalent 10 years ago in 2014 when Dubie was hired. If there was an anti-Dubas "movement", it likely had a lot to do with distrust of advanced stats and the "nerds taking over".

Also he was young and not a former NHL player, which breaks the brain of certain neanderthal types.
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Think of all the old school GMs in the league at that time that identified with Lou....and thought "that glasses guy in the office better not try to push me out?"
 
Habsy said:
You just described obtuse
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All too polite.

He’s a shit coach who built an impressive regular season record off the backs of a few superstars. And then when coaching actually became more determinative in the playoffs, he got whipped every time. A stubborn, arrogant dummy who would look past the obvious and try to come up with square pegs to shove into round holes and stick to those strategies till it killed him, and us.

Garbage coach is my final assessment.
 
Keefe deserves credit for righting the ship that Babcock was intent on drilling holes in the hull of and he was fine for a few years. Nothing genius, but was willing to take some low hanging fruit wins that helped turn the team from a 95-100 point group to a 110+ point team. Stop emotionally abusing your stars, play them more than 17-18 minutes a night, stop being a dump and chase team without the horses to be one, etc. But he definitely inherited an elite group out there and it shows in his regular season accomplishments. He always struggled with coaching adjustments in the playoffs. He always struggled to get this group to "start games on time" (of multiple formulations....we can't blame the same 5 guys for the new 14 guys starting games poorly still) and over the last 2ish years of his tenure definitely shrunk into a much more risk averse shell where he was coaching to win games 2-1 a lot and much preferred "safe" veterans over risky skill players.

Maybe he was actually good at some point, but I don't see significant evidence of it. "Got 100+ points a bunch of times on a team with Auston Matthews" isn't really a flex in my books.
 
MindzEye said:
Keefe deserves credit for righting the ship that Babcock was intent on drilling holes in the hull of and he was fine for a few years. Nothing genius, but was willing to take some low hanging fruit wins that helped turn the team from a 95-100 point group to a 110+ point team. Stop emotionally abusing your stars, play them more than 17-18 minutes a night, stop being a dump and chase team without the horses to be one, etc. But he definitely inherited an elite group out there and it shows in his regular season accomplishments. He always struggled with coaching adjustments in the playoffs. He always struggled to get this group to "start games on time" (of multiple formulations....we can't blame the same 5 guys for the new 14 guys starting games poorly still) and over the last 2ish years of his tenure definitely shrunk into a much more risk averse shell where he was coaching to win games 2-1 a lot and much preferred "safe" veterans over risky skill players.

Maybe he was actually good at some point, but I don't see significant evidence of it. "Got 100+ points a bunch of times on a team with Auston Matthews" isn't really a flex in my books.
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He really changed as a coach drastically last 2 years. He had to go. He got all grey, fat and "Gud-pro"
 
Hes the only oaf I'm interested in. If we're even considering bringing back lyubushkin or eddy, just pay the fucking extra and get that behemoth
 
I'm typically not one to buy into an extended aggressive uptrend so I'd personally stay away from Zadorov shares. The elite teams identify under the radar talent and get value out of them and typically don't buy into euphoria.

Why can't the Leafs do that for once? Get one of the bigger fish but supplement that with identifying someone else.. maybe Matt Roy is that guy and is undervalued around the league.. idk, whoever it is. Just find someone.
 
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