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Around the League 2019-2024 Edition

Brad has a shit poker face. I saw right through him during his post UFA presser. He was entirely non committal on Liljegren. He is likely the main piece dangled in any trade he's negotiating right now.
 
Wondering if they'll ever try stacking the top line something like:
Nylander-Matthews-Marner
Knies-Domi-Robertson
McMann-Tavares-Jarnkrok
 
so something more like this then ya think?
Domi-Matthews-Marner (likely not moving away from Matthews in a contract year)
Knies-Nylander-Robertson
 
Matthews looked great with Bert and Domi.

Marner looked great with Bert and Domi.

No need for them to play together imo. Especially after all their playoffs failure attached at the hip.
 
You guys with your Lilly trade wishes will look real stupid soon. Tre will look even stupider for wanting to trade him.

I'm also with Matty playing without Marner and Nylander. He won't flirt with 70, but we don't need him to. Let the other lines have more firepower.
 
zeke said:
Seeing how well Matthews played with Bert and Domi on his wings, i think they should stick with the unstack. Matthews is awesome. He doesn't need elite help. Spread the elites to the other lines imo.
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I've always been a stack guy historically but yeah for this team right now playing the big 3 all on different lines is the play. we need a 3rd line that can hurt you, not just play meek negative hockey.
 
I think that as long as they show they can at least hang, we're going to see Cowan and Minty make the team and Kampf and likely Jarny get traded off at camp. And that makes the team look so much better.
 
Last 3yrs 5v5 per 60s

AM w/o MM w/o WN: 662:16, 4.35gf, 2.36ga, 64.9% --- 3.38xgf, 2.40xga, 58.5%
AM with MM w/o WN: 1873:48, 4.03gf, 2.44ga, 62.4% --- 3.27xgf, 2.15xga, 60.3%
AM w/o MM with WN: 892:04, 3.63gf, 2.49ga, 59.3% --- 3.60xgf, 2.70xga, 57.1%
AM with MM with WN: 134:13, 4.47gf, 3.58ga, 55.6% --- 4.14xgf, 2.91xga, 58.7%

AM's line is actually most productive when it's just him.

Well it's slightly more productive when all 3 of them are together but that comes at the expense of no defense, and that small sample likely comes only in extreme offensive zone usage.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
You guys with your Lilly trade wishes will look real stupid soon. Tre will look even stupider for wanting to trade him.

I'm also with Matty playing without Marner and Nylander. He won't flirt with 70, but we don't need him to. Let the other lines have more firepower.
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Matty can flirt with 70 without Sex or Mucho on his wing! agree with everything else though
 
zeke said:
Last 3yrs 5v5 per 60s

AM w/o MM w/o WN: 662:16, 4.35gf, 2.36ga, 64.9% --- 3.38xgf, 2.40xga, 58.5%
AM with MM w/o WN: 1873:48, 4.03gf, 2.44ga, 62.4% --- 3.27xgf, 2.15xga, 60.3%
AM w/o MM with WN: 892:04, 3.63gf, 2.49ga, 59.3% --- 3.60xgf, 2.70xga, 57.1%
AM with MM with WN: 134:13, 4.47gf, 3.58ga, 55.6% --- 4.14xgf, 2.91xga, 58.7%

AM's line is actually most productive when it's just him.

Well it's slightly more productive when all 3 of them are together but that comes at the expense of no defense, and that small sample likely comes only in extreme offensive zone usage.
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what a fucking beast. need to remind myself to appreciate him while we have him, despite our inability to provide him with the supporting cast he needs
 
Of course, Willy and Mitch solo lines are much less productive than they are with Matthews but that's no reason to keep them with Matthews imo.

The biggest question for me is who do we put with Tavares to best complement him offensively and defensively.....and for me that's probably mitch. It's a natural passer-shooter combo and mitch is good defensively too. Question would be who to put on the other side. I like the way Domi looked with his old linemate Mitch so i like that fit, but then that line becomes a little weak defensively.

But Domi also looked really good with Matthews, and it gives Matthews an elite passer to play with.

We don't have a great 3C but i believe that Holmberg has legit good upside in that role so i put willy with him there. Holmberg is pretty decent defensively which should balance willy a bit, and has good enough offense to be complementary there too.

I also think Dewar-Kampf-Jarnkrok is as good a pure defense line as could ice at the bottom, and while it's too expensive would be a legit good checking 4th line.

So the question for me would be which lines Knies/Robby/McMann complement the most in the top 9.

Of course, with a whole new coaching staff i could see them just going with the old matthews/marner and tavares/nylander combos like always and i'm pretty tired of that setup tbh.
 
Wayward DP said:
what a fucking beast. need to remind myself to appreciate him while we have him, despite our inability to provide him with the supporting cast he needs
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That is the beauty of those types imo. They can turn okay players like Kunitz or Hyman into great players.

My personal favourite was mcjesus turning maroon into a 27 goal guy
 
zeke said:
Of course, Willy and Mitch solo lines are much less productive than they are with Matthews but that's no reason to keep them with Matthews imo.

The biggest question for me is who do we put with Tavares to best complement him offensively and defensively.....and for me that's probably mitch. It's a natural passer-shooter combo and mitch is good defensively too. Question would be who to put on the other side. I like the way Domi looked with his old linemate Mitch so i like that fit, but then that line becomes a little weak defensively.

But Domi also looked really good with Matthews, and it gives Matthews an elite passer to play with.

We don't have a great 3C but i believe that Holmberg has legit good upside in that role so i put willy with him there. Holmberg is pretty decent defensively which should balance willy a bit, and has good enough offense to be complementary there too.

I also think Dewar-Kampf-Jarnkrok is as good a pure defense line as could ice at the bottom, and while it's too expensive would be a legit good checking 4th line.

So the question for me would be which lines Knies/Robby/McMann complement the most in the top 9.

Of course, with a whole new coaching staff i could see them just going with the old matthews/marner and tavares/nylander combos like always and i'm pretty tired of that setup tbh.
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I want Willy to get a legit shot at C. and Tavares seems to do best with bums on his wing...

Domi-Matthews-Knies
Robertson-Tavares-McMann
Holmberg-Nylander-Marner

is my first thought. dunno how much I like that though. back to the drawing board, perhaps
 
Wayward DP said:
Matty can flirt with 70 without Sex or Mucho on his wing! agree with everything else though
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Nah. Unless the PP is scorching most of the year, I doubt he could get that many goals without Marner or Willy on his wing. Could be wrong, but strongly doubt it. Could still get 50 in his sleep though.
 
zeke said:
Of course, Willy and Mitch solo lines are much less productive than they are with Matthews but that's no reason to keep them with Matthews imo.

The biggest question for me is who do we put with Tavares to best complement him offensively and defensively.....and for me that's probably mitch. It's a natural passer-shooter combo and mitch is good defensively too. Question would be who to put on the other side. I like the way Domi looked with his old linemate Mitch so i like that fit, but then that line becomes a little weak defensively.

But Domi also looked really good with Matthews, and it gives Matthews an elite passer to play with.

We don't have a great 3C but i believe that Holmberg has legit good upside in that role so i put willy with him there. Holmberg is pretty decent defensively which should balance willy a bit, and has good enough offense to be complementary there too.

I also think Dewar-Kampf-Jarnkrok is as good a pure defense line as could ice at the bottom, and while it's too expensive would be a legit good checking 4th line.

So the question for me would be which lines Knies/Robby/McMann complement the most in the top 9.

Of course, with a whole new coaching staff i could see them just going with the old matthews/marner and tavares/nylander combos like always and i'm pretty tired of that setup tbh.
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For me, it'd be Knies, who can engage in the board battles, get in front of the net, make a pass, as well.

Robertson would also be a good fit because of the speed element he'd add.
 
Wayward DP said:
I want Willy to get a legit shot at C. and Tavares seems to do best with bums on his wing...

Domi-Matthews-Knies
Robertson-Tavares-McMann
Holmberg-Nylander-Marner

is my first thought. dunno how much I like that though. back to the drawing board, perhaps
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I can't explain why, but Domi just always looks out of place in any lineup I see.

I don't know if it's because of residual memories of Tie and feeling like he should only be on the 4th line, or because he doesn't really hit the spot as a C but also isn't my ideal winger either. I honestly don't know. I just know it looks gross to have him on the first line. I think I want him on the third line as the winger for Holmberg.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I can't explain why, but Domi just always looks out of place in any lineup I see.

I don't know if it's because of residual memories of Tie and feeling like he should only be on the 4th line, or because he doesn't really hit the spot as a C but also isn't my ideal winger either. I honestly don't know. I just know it looks gross to have him on the first line. I think I want him on the third line as the winger for Holmberg.
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I thought both the Domi-Matthews and Domi-Marner combinations were really, really excellent last year. Both on the eyes, and the numbers
 
Something about Domi. I'm just not such a fan. I really was kinda hoping he'd walk this summer and that we'd get someone better to replace him.
 
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