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Around the League 2019-2024 Edition

WellPlayed said:
How exactly are baseball and basketball violent?
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They both used to be. Unfortunately those aspects have been largely expunged from both sports.

Look at a video or the 1980's Celtics or Pistons. Way more violent. And baseball used to have more bean balls as well as collisions at 2nd, 3rd and home plate because baseball stealing was a thing.
 
Clearly removing violence (often involving fans!) from basketball has badly hurt the growth of the sport and they barely, barely turned over 12 billion in revenue last year.
 
I tried to like soccer. I try every time the World Cup is on. But it's just doesn't do it for me. During Covid I started watching the Guinness 6 Nations Rugby championship and I've been absolutely hooked on it since. But rugby, of course, isn't a sport full of pussies like soccer.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
I tried to like soccer. I try every time the World Cup is on. But it's just doesn't do it for me. During Covid I started watching the Guinness 6 Nations Rugby championship and I've been absolutely hooked on it since. But rugby, of course, isn't a sport full of pussies like soccer.
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Have you ever stopped to consider that it's not about you?
 
MindzEye said:
Clearly removing violence (often involving fans!) from basketball has badly hurt the growth of the sport and they barely, barely turned over 12 billion in revenue last year.
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I don't give a shit how many people watch it. A lot of people watched Everybody Loves Raymond too. It didn't make it a good show. It, like soccer and basketball, is garbage. All sports were better when they were more violent. Even British soccer was more engaging back in the 70s when guys would subtly kick and punch each other when the ref wasn't looking.

I like sports that bleed.
 
MindzEye said:
But that's the point of the entire fucking conversation....which sports are gaining (or losing) popularity, at what rates, etc.

The NBA has been on a very impressive 10-20 year run of growing the sport internationally.
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And yet, the product has been getting steadily more tedious to watch. Eventually that's going to matter.
 
MindzEye said:
But that's the point of the entire fucking conversation....which sports are gaining (or losing) popularity, at what rates, etc.

The NBA has been on a very impressive 10-20 year run of growing the sport internationally.
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Did the NBA and China start hugging again after that Morey comment years ago ?
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
And yet, the product has been getting steadily more tedious to watch. Eventually that's going to matter.
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Product is great. The old guys in the media are mad that people aren't beating each other up in the paint often enough and saying bad stuff about it. Nobody else cares. The game is faster and more skilled than ever.
 
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interesting how much of the differnece in revenues comes down to tv deals and merch.

non-"central revenue" revenue:

MLB 8.1
NFL 6.4
NBA 6.4
NHL 5.5
 
MindzEye said:
Why do you hate the athletes you cheer for?
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The athletes are just a means to an end. I cheer for teams, not individual players. Once a player is no longer on my team they are dead to me. They exist for my entertainment. Once they no longer do that they no longer have any value. My fealty to sports is purely transactional.
 
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