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Around the League 2019-2024 Edition

The games of this series reminded me quite a bit of our series with them last year, though we played them a bit worse than the Rags, I feel.
 
1. EDM 57.6xgf%
3. DAL 55.4xgf%
5. FLA 53.9xgf%

23. NYR 48.3xgf%

Garbage rangers. Goalie and a PP.
 
Preston said:
Congrats to Jonas on the Florida call. East champs 2 years in a row. Sounds like they are actually a very good team.

This series wasn't particularly close. Nice run for the rangers but you ain't winning a cup when the only elite part of your lineup is your goalie. Doesn't work.
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Poor dumb zeke
 
Hoss said:
This has to be an issue brought up in the new cba

The unfair advantage that state or provincial taxes play.

I've said it 100 times. Make the whole league pay NYC tax rate (the home of the nhl) and their state or province gets that money back from the nhl.
The cap has to be equitable man
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Taxes dont score goals or make saves
 
GEEMAN said:
Taxes dont score goals or make saves
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They kinda do though.

Matt Tkachuk signed an extension at 11.5% of the cap coming off of a 100+ point season. Barkov at 12.3% coming off of 88 points in 67 games (107 point pace). Market value for them at the time they signed was significantly higher. Probably 13-14% for Tkachuk (for example, Marner's current extension was 13.4%) and Barkov pretty similar (Tavares UFA deal was 13.8%, Eichel's extension was 13.3%, etc)

When it was just Tampa, it was somewhat easy to dismiss the effect as one core group of players all taking less to stay together and win together. But we're seeing the same thing happen in Florida now and we're talking about a core group leaving 3-5 million dollars a year on the table because their after tax income ends up the same. It's a noticeable but not huge thing on a single player level (rough math, but Tkachuk's 9.5 in Florida equals about 10.4 in a higher tax state and more or less the same as Ontario), but its impact across an entire roster is definitely a bit more noticeable. ~5 million is the difference between being able to absorb a mistake without giving up a 1st round pick that turns into a 30 goal scoring 22 yr old.

The entire point of the cap was to create an even playing field between the rich teams and the poor teams, but in practice it doesn't do that. It's levelled it more than it was back when the Red Wings, Leafs, and Rangers could spend whatever the fuck they wanted, but it's not financially level either.
 
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MindzEye said:
They kinda do though.

Matt Tkachuk signed an extension at 11.5% of the cap coming off of a 100+ point season. Barkov at 12.3% coming off of 88 points in 67 games (107 point pace). Market value for them at the time they signed was significantly higher. Probably 13-14% for Tkachuk (for example, Marner's current extension was 13.4%) and Barkov pretty similar (Tavares UFA deal was 13.8%, Eichel's extension was 13.3%, etc)

When it was just Tampa, it was somewhat easy to dismiss the effect as one core group of players all taking less to stay together and win together. But we're seeing the same thing happen in Florida now and we're talking about a core group leaving 3-5 million dollars a year on the table because their after tax income ends up the same. It's a noticeable but not huge thing on a single player level (rough math, but Tkachuk's 9.5 in Florida equals about 10.4 in a higher tax state and more or less the same as Ontario), but its impact across an entire roster is definitely a bit more noticeable. ~5 million is the difference between being able to absorb a mistake without giving up a 1st round pick that turns into a 30 goal scoring 22 yr old.

The entire point of the cap was to create an even playing field between the rich teams and the poor teams, but in practice it doesn't do that. It's levelled it more than it was back when the Red Wings, Leafs, and Rangers could spend whatever the fuck they wanted, but it's not financially level either.
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You work around it , draft better and make smarter trades and signings and fewer mistakes

5 mil across a roster shouldnt prevent you from competing , barely 5% of the cap.

This isnt GSW dropping 400 mil in salary and luxury taxes or Yanks tossing 300 mil while half the teams in MLB are done by June
 
GEEMAN said:
You work around it , draft better and make smarter trades and signings and fewer mistakes
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You're describing an uneven playing field. When I have to work hard & smarter than you to achieve the same results. I have to do that all ~6% better than you just to be equal. That's the point.

GEEMAN said:
5 mil across a roster shouldnt prevent you from competing , barely 5% of the cap.
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We're not talking about competing though, we're talking about winning. 6% can definitely be the difference between winning and losing. 5 million is the difference between signing Tyler Bertuzzi for your 1st line this year and Sam Reinhart. Or Lyubushkin for your blueline or Skjei.

GEEMAN said:
This isnt GSW dropping 400 mil in salary and luxury taxes or Yanks tossing 300 mil while half the teams in MLB are done by June
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Never said it is. In fact, came right out and said it was more even than the old system.

That doesn't make it even though, which is what it was supposed to be.

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Low tax jurisdictions have a competitive advantage baked in to the league's economic structure and it's relatively significant.
 
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