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Around The League - 2024-25 Regular Season

GEEMAN said:
That is fair , some internal mechanism in place to help out

However , creative taxation is being done to pay less
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When a player on a US based team can write off a six figure country club membership fee as a "health benefit" on his taxes while a player on a Canadian team has no such loophole open to him that's an unfair advantage for the American team.
 
GrandWazoo said:
I'd do minor tweaks mostly on buyouts to have less impacts on the cap. Let's say with a cap penalty of 50% with the option of keeping the same contract length or spreading it to double the years.

For example buying out Gallagher would either have a 3.75M cap penalty for 4 years or 1.625 for 8 years.
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The NBA has the stretch provision that is sometimes used

The easier answer is this , dont hand Gally a fucked up contract from day 1 .....problem solved
 
GEEMAN said:
The NBA has the stretch provision that is sometimes used

The easier answer is this , dont hand Gally a fucked up contract from day 1 .....problem solved
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Sure, but mistakes will be made. The NHL has the most unforgiving rules to get out of bad deals. Plus it’s not good for players either when they become burden, dispatched to lowly teams trying to make the floor or worse, sent to Robidas island.
 
GrandWazoo said:
Sure, but mistakes will be made. The NHL has the most unforgiving rules to get out of bad deals. Plus it’s not good for players either when they become burden, dispatched to lowly teams trying to make the floor or worse, sent to Robidas island.
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Mistakes are made but you need to minimize them based on your current landscape

Case in point .....St Louis Blues

The window is over , team had a solid 10 year run with a cup

Time to turn the team over to Thomas and Kyrou and move on

They cant bitch years down the road if they extend Tarasenko and ROR to stupid deals , trade them at the deadline

Everyone knows the rules and the cap dont allow teams to undue mistakes easily unlike other sports
 
GrandWazoo said:
Sure, but mistakes will be made. The NHL has the most unforgiving rules to get out of bad deals. Plus it’s not good for players either when they become burden, dispatched to lowly teams trying to make the floor or worse, sent to Robidas island.
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If you give teams a loophole for getting out of bad deals they will just make more bad deals. The old model was to allow rich teams with incompetent management like the Leafs and Rangers to throw money at their mistakes and cause salaries to explode as a result.. The whole point of the cap was to change that kind of reckless behavior so as to put the brakes on needless salary escalation.

Why don't the Leafs win anymore like they did in the 90's? Simple. Because the old system rewarded stupidity while the cap system punishes it. The Leafs front office didn't get dumber. It's as dumb as it ever was. The only difference is that now they aren't allowed to profit from their obscene wealth and cover up their ineptitude.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
If you give teams a loophole for getting out of bad deals they will just make more bad deals. The old model was to allow rich teams with incompetent management like the Leafs and Rangers to throw money at their mistakes and cause salaries to explode as a result.. The whole point of the cap was to change that kind of reckless behavior so as to put the brakes on needless salary escalation.

Why don't the Leafs win anymore like they did in the 90's? Simple. Because the old system rewarded stupidity while the cap system punishes it. The Leafs front office didn't get dumber. It's as dumb as it ever was. The only difference is that now they aren't allowed to profit from their obscene wealth and cover up their ineptitude.
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If you had the previous system 1/3 to 1/2 the teams would barely spend
 
GEEMAN said:
If you had the previous system 1/3 to 1/2 the teams would barely spend
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Of course. There'd be no point. It would be like MLB is now. Remember when the Habs used to make token, low ball offers on free agents just to pretend they were trying to do stuff when in actual fact they ran a bargain basement roster? They weren't seriously trying to compete.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
Of course. There'd be no point. It would be like MLB is now. Remember when the Habs used to make token, low ball offers on free agents just to pretend they were trying to do stuff when in actual fact they ran a bargain basement roster? They weren't seriously trying to compete.
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I could be wrong but revenue sharing didnt exist back then in the NHL

MLB is a fucken joke but teams at least can manage their business they way they see fit

If you dont want to spend like Oakland , fuck it

You dont have a cap or floor to deal with

But a 200 mil gap between spenders is ridiculous
 
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GEEMAN said:
I could be wrong but revenue sharing didnt exist back then in the NHL

MLB is a fucken joke but teams at least can manage their business they way they see fit

If you dont want to spend like Oakland , fuck it

You dont have a cap or floor to deal with

But a 200 mil gap between spenders is ridiculous
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MLB supposedly has a luxury tax but the teams that receive welfare are not obliged to spend it on trying to get better. Since there is no floor team owners can simply pocket the money. That's what the Pirates do every year.

Long term, of course, one has to wonder why any baseball fan in Pittsburgh would waste their time and money on a team that basically says "We aren't even pretending to try to win".
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
If you give teams a loophole for getting out of bad deals they will just make more bad deals. The old model was to allow rich teams with incompetent management like the Leafs and Rangers to throw money at their mistakes and cause salaries to explode as a result.. The whole point of the cap was to change that kind of reckless behavior so as to put the brakes on needless salary escalation.

Why don't the Leafs win anymore like they did in the 90's? Simple. Because the old system rewarded stupidity while the cap system punishes it. The Leafs front office didn't get dumber. It's as dumb as it ever was. The only difference is that now they aren't allowed to profit from their obscene wealth and cover up their ineptitude.
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That's why I'm only proposing a small change to move from 1/3 cap saving to 1/2 cap saving. Teams will still feel the pain from their bad deals.
 
GEEMAN said:
I could be wrong but revenue sharing didnt exist back then in the NHL

MLB is a fucken joke but teams at least can manage their business they way they see fit

If you dont want to spend like Oakland , fuck it

You dont have a cap or floor to deal with

But a 200 mil gap between spenders is ridiculous
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MLB popularity is in a freefall, and the system and disparity between teams is a big reason for that. I personally gave up on baseball for that reason, and I know many more that feels the same.
 
GrandWazoo said:
Sure, but mistakes will be made. The NHL has the most unforgiving rules to get out of bad deals. Plus it’s not good for players either when they become burden, dispatched to lowly teams trying to make the floor or worse, sent to Robidas island.
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Remember when redden was making 6m in the minors?

Those were the days.
 
Sal_Butera said:
NHL shouldn’t touch cap system, but simply allow each team one franchise player who is cap exempt.
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That will fuck up the salary structure even more

Agents now see free money and licking their chops to pounce

Half the league doesn’t have a franchise player but an agent will say hey it doesn’t count so sign your 60 point player to
10 mil

Teams with a stud will ask for 20% of the cap , hey it doesn’t count again

That second or third star on that team will have their agents looking for more
 
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