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Habsy said:
More offer sheets need done too with a franchise tag for one player so that every team can afford a superstar
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What needs to be done for offer sheets is to lower the price for declining an offer sheet. When an offer sheet is made at the highest bracket, the price to decline the offer sheet is four first round picks. Sorry, that's way too much. I'd honestly make it just one first round picks.

Rules need to be changed to incentivize aggressive tactics instead of passive "let's build through the draft over the next 6-7 years" tactics.
 
GrandWazoo said:
Pretty much anything that increases their autonomy with costing them money, or increase the money they get. Reducing time to autonomy, more flexible buyout rules (without impacting money owed to players), less draft rounds (meaning more young free agent players), luxury tax (more money), etc.
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You guys are throwing crap at the wall hoping something sticks

Does nothing to increase shit teams from getting better , unless your regime makes smart decisions
 
GGpX said:
There are so many things that can be done.

However, what they require are fundamental changes to the collective bargaining agreement. The NHLPA has a strong union and they're not going to simply give up 8 year contracts because it makes the league better; that's not their problem. So the NHL has to give them something in return which would make it worth their while. I've suggested numerous times: Allow true free agency at the age of 24 or with 5 years of NHL accrued seasons.

Free agency when a player is in the middle of his prime? You want a way to turn things around for your franchise overnight, that's one way to do it.

It makes too much sense to just ignore. It would actually be beneficial for both the teams & the players. The players have more leverage on the team that drafted them to pay them quicker and teams have a better chance to get a player in the middle of their prime to improve the team overnight.

Plus, the fans love player movement. There's a reason TSN & Sportsnet do Trade Deadline and Free Agency shows, there are thousands of people watching.

Another way to make things better for fans, but the NHLPA would never agree to? Abolish NTC / NMC or, at the very least, make them limited where a team can only have one or two players with a NTC/NMC.

Since we're talking about it, another thing that could be done, which would be unique to the major North American sports: Allow players to be loaned from one team to another for a certain period of time. Example, this team is out of the running, we loan Brendan Gallagher for the rest of the 2024-2025 season to Tampa Bay and he returns to the team for the 2025-2026 season, unless his loan is extended. The team acquiring the player would pay his contract for the duration of the loan time. The Habs would get, I dunno, a 5th round pick.

The return would be less than a trade, but it would allow for more player movement and more teams to load up for playoff runs. It also allows teams to acquire players for a run without having to be burdened by their contract beyond the time they were loaned.

If your belief is "nothing can be done" to improve the NHL, please abstain from the discussion. I've got a shitload of ideas to make this putrid league better.
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That was my silly point about CMD, loan him from team to team but you know it’s not happening like your idea of Gallagher like it happens in soccer

The majority of the problem is simply teams handing out too many crippling shit contracts that are fucked up from day one that include trade clauses, your screwed

Teams get burdened for years with 20+ million of shit on their books and everyone is trying to fix their problem, trying to move crap
for crap.

What I would do is this

Add the fourth year to rookie contracts with a set salary guarantee like 2 million , almost like an option year

Keep the bonus structure in place for rookies , can’t penalize performance

Max contract lengths are 5 years , this will kill the middle class but …..

Buyout at 1/3 for all contracts not just under 26 like now and GW says spread out over a time period

Max 1 NMC per team and 2 MTC where only 5 teams can be on that list

You need a way to have more contracts expire together closer to ELC so teams have tons of cap space for player movement

Bottom line only smart regimes will ever improve a team

If your still dumb enough to give Gally or a wounded Price crazy money or Boston handing Lindholm 7x7 this summer ( what can go wrong )
your asking for problems .
 
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TheCountofMonteCristo said:
Here are few options, you can cut a player after 3 years into a contract and not have it count on the cap, put a max of maybe 2 players), and then you could have buyouts on top of that.

or, the buyout cap hit is only over 2 years, not twice the number of years left, yes you are hit for 2 years on cap, but out from under after, and make it only 50% counts toward cap

Or, no guaranteed contracts like the NFL BUT huge signing bonuses prorated, some cap hit but can cut salary if necessary.

You can have one player NOT count toward the cap.

Lower UFA age so players are not signing 8 year contracts at 22 knowing they can go to highest bidder at 24.

It is inexcusable that teams have to rebuild for 5-8 years to have a shot at a playoff spot and still expect fans to fork out 400 a ticket to watch a team whose management is not even trying to win.
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Players not count against the cap is ridiculous

Agents would lick their chops when a team with no franchise player gets 12 mil cause what the hell it doesn’t count

Rest of your salary structure gets fucked up

The lowering of UFA age won’t make much difference IMO , teams would we rushing to keep as many stars locked up as possible

There will me more player movement for sure but not enough to help all teams

The NHL is nowhere near as fucked up as MLB where nearly 20 teams are toast before the season begins

League simply needs more flexibility and not keep handing the keys to your asylum to the players like now
 
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TheCountofMonteCristo said:
Here are few options, you can cut a player after 3 years into a contract and not have it count on the cap, put a max of maybe 2 players), and then you could have buyouts on top of that.

or, the buyout cap hit is only over 2 years, not twice the number of years left, yes you are hit for 2 years on cap, but out from under after, and make it only 50% counts toward cap

Or, no guaranteed contracts like the NFL BUT huge signing bonuses prorated, some cap hit but can cut salary if necessary.

You can have one player NOT count toward the cap.

Lower UFA age so players are not signing 8 year contracts at 22 knowing they can go to highest bidder at 24.

It is inexcusable that teams have to rebuild for 5-8 years to have a shot at a playoff spot and still expect fans to fork out 400 a ticket to watch a team whose management is not even trying to win.
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dont go to the games drop $400 elsewhere
 
GEEMAN said:
You guys are throwing crap at the wall hoping something sticks

Does nothing to increase shit teams from getting better , unless your regime makes smart decisions
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You’re missing the point. Even smart regimes take 8-10 years to rebuild a team, it’s too long. And even smart regimes make mistakes. The objective is to give regimes more tools at their disposal to rebuild besides praying that the draft gods are kind to them. But it’s not magic, you still need smart decisions to take advantage of it but right now the options are too limited for those teams.
 
GrandWazoo said:
You’re missing the point. Even smart regimes take 8-10 years to rebuild a team, it’s too long. And even smart regimes make mistakes. The objective is to give regimes more tools at their disposal to rebuild besides praying that the draft gods are kind to them. But it’s not magic, you still need smart decisions to take advantage of it but right now the options are too limited for those teams.
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100%.

And that's bad for the NHL. Markets not named Montreal will lose interest. Even here in Philly, the arena is 1/4 to 1/3 empty on some nights.
 
GEEMAN said:
Players not count against the cap is ridiculous

Agents would lick their chops when a team with no franchise player gets 12 mil cause what the hell it doesn’t count

Rest of your salary structure gets fucked up

The lowering of UFA age won’t make much difference IMO , teams would we rushing to keep as many stars locked up as possible

There will me more player movement for sure but not enough to help all teams

The NHL is nowhere near as fucked up as MLB where nearly 20 teams are toast before the season begins

League simply needs more flexibility and not keep handing the keys to your asylum to the players like now
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if players are smart, they don't sign long term
 
GrandWazoo said:
You’re missing the point. Even smart regimes take 8-10 years to rebuild a team, it’s too long. And even smart regimes make mistakes. The objective is to give regimes more tools at their disposal to rebuild besides praying that the draft gods are kind to them. But it’s not magic, you still need smart decisions to take advantage of it but right now the options are too limited for those teams.
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The owners put themselves in a position of no flexibility or ability to manage their business , thats on them caving in

All these bad contracts and 8 year deals will be still be on the books even grandfathered in a new CBA

You simply cant have 32 successful teams and rebuilds take time , but it doesnt help the way regimes do business

Give them more tools they will still hand out shit contracts , its their nature .

There is no excuse for any team to be shit for 8-10 years , only a handful of teams have missed the playoffs over that span
 
TheCountofMonteCristo said:
if players are smart, they don't sign long term
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If they are smarter they do what Slaf did

He has 1 goal and is not the same player this year

Finish the year like this , there is no 60+ mil deal on the table , go gamble on a 2-3 year bridge deal

Its fine if your Matthews who got his bag and is top end , the rest secure your bag and if your good more money down the road

There was no chance Leon was going to piss away 14x8 at 30 years of ago and gamble at 34 still being elite

Walk away with nearly 200 mil in earnings and sleep at night

Every player does what makes sense for them
 
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