Core 4 No More: The Motherfucking Off-Season Thread

[CH1]

Goalscoring has been a much bigger issue than goaltending.

You sure about that?

A muffin allowed forces the offence to score two to win

 

[MindzEye]

Just wanted to put this out there because I think that in general, people are way too impatient with the development of defencemen.

113 NHL defencemen played 19 minutes a night or more last season.

48 of them were right handed shots
31 of them were 25 or under
8 of them were under 25 and a right handed shot....at the same time
4 of them were right handed, 25 and under and earned those minutes on a playoff team.

Liljegren was one of those 4.

Shit, expand it to 17 mpg and you only add one more. Expand it to 15mpg and you only add 2 more again.

 

[zeke]

Eh, "much" is a pretty fucking strong word there.

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We can point to the 4 Woll starts which do some work in dragging the averages up (especially this season) but the broader truth is that in 21 of our last 25 playoff games we've had a goalie in net who couldn't give us .900

Yeah, you have to be able to score goals but it's kind of instructive that Dallas and Florida both just closed out their series wins with 2-1 scorelines. You have to be able to win those games too, where 2 goals is enough. We've very rarely gotten clutch goaltending performances over the last 6-7 seasons.

21-22: .901 - .897
22-23: .897 - .875, .909 - .943
23-24: .916 - .944

 

[mbow30]

Exactly. not a lot of rhd

 

[MindzEye]

21-22: .901 - .897
22-23: .897 - .875, .909 - .943
23-24: .916 - .944

Apology accepted

 

[zeke]

Apology accepted.

 

[leafman101]

Just wanted to put this out there because I think that in general, people are way too impatient with the development of defencemen.

113 NHL defencemen played 19 minutes a night or more last season.

48 of them were right handed shots
31 of them were 25 or under
8 of them were under 25 and a right handed shot....at the same time
4 of them were right handed, 25 and under and earned those minutes on a playoff team.

Liljegren was one of those 4.

Shit, expand it to 17 mpg and you only add one more. Expand it to 15mpg and you only add 2 more again.

Also shows why you shouldn’t give a shit about needed RHD. They don’t exist.

 

[MindzEye]

Also shows why you shouldn’t give a shit about needed RHD. They don’t exist.

and why guys like prime brodie, or even McCabe are important. Lefties who don't suck on the right are a rarity.

 

[LeafOfFaith]

Marner for huberdeau and weegar

It worked out so well for him the first time, so why the heck not??

 

[LeafOfFaith]

You sure about that?

A muffin allowed forces the offence to score two to win

That Sammy Lalime goal in game 3 (I think) was a killer. And then his goals allowed in game 7 were fucking terrible. The series came down to just those plays.

 

[Preston]

View: https://twitter.com/nylanderthews/status/1792332495641522635?t=sAaGUwbSd90XSGS7JgOE2A&s=19

 

[MyNameIsJonas]

If they keep Tavares and get a generic return for Marner, that’s a dick kick

 

[LeafOfFaith]

View: https://twitter.com/nylanderthews/status/1792332495641522635?t=sAaGUwbSd90XSGS7JgOE2A&s=19

There’s coincidentally also a 5% or less chance that he knows anything.

 

[Preston]

There’s coincidentally also a 5% or less chance that he knows anything.

Seravali broke the Reaves to the Leafs"rumor" a year ago almost to this day. I laughed at him as we all did. Hard. Turns out they know all about loose lips Tre and what his intentions are. You must be a slow learner

 

[MyNameIsJonas]

That’s the thing, Srravelli is probably a goof suffering from reverse Benjamin Button disease but it’s very evident this FO has leaks and does not care

 

[Preston]

Yup. Of course he knows.

 

[Preston]

With that said, it's not much of a secret. Shanny basically said it out loud to the world.

 

[MyNameIsJonas]

With that said, it's not much of a secret. Shanny basically said it out loud to the world.

There was a world where he was talking about the Captain

 

[MyNameIsJonas]

I think Nashville and Seattle are two of the top Marner spots I see that make sense to me, LA too

 

[Preston]

There was a world where he was talking about the Captain

That was my hope and unrealistic dream but it sorta felt like he was strongly implying changing a major piece of the core, not some old washed up dude.