MyNameIsJonas
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How did Winnipeg handle Brossoit? Did he get alot of soft starts playing behind Hellybucyk?
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Volcanologist
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Until morale here improves
zeke
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GSAx/60 Last 2yrs (min 1000 shot attempts = 73 qualified goalies)
1. Broissoit (31): 1987.06min, +24.34gsax, +0.74gsax/60
2. Ullmark (31): 5281.96min, +59.83gsax, +0.68gsax/60
3. Stolarz (30): 2326.50min, +23.93gsax, +0.62gsax/60
4. Hellebuyck (31): 7345.30min, +72.97gsax, +0.60gsax/60
5. Swayman (26): 4578.76min, +43.78gsax, +0.57gsax/60
6. Sorokin (29): 6913.05min, +59.81gsax, +0.52gsax/60
7. Woll (26): 1888.08min, +15.16gsax, +0.48gsax/60
8. Varlamov (36): 2929.41min, +22.14gsax, +0.45gsax/60
9. Montembault (28): 4762.18min, +35.17gsax, +0.44gsax/60
10. Saros (29): 7434.61min, +53.00gsax, +0.43gsax/60
11. Rittich (32): 2486.20min, +17.34gsax, +0.42gsax/60
12. Shesterkin (29): 6765.87min, +45.20gsax, +0.40gsax/60
13. Levi (23): 1723.92min, +11.61gsax, +0.40gsax/60
14. Andersen (35): 2897.23min, +18.42gsax, +0.38gsax/60
15. Lankinen (29): 2260.59min, +13.88gsax, +0.37gsax/60
16. Ingram (27): 4389.60min, +26.61gsax, +0.36gsax/60
17. Hofer (24): 1945.85min, +11.03gsax, +0.34gsax/60
18. Primeau (25): 1463.41min, +7.86gsax, +0.32gsax/60
19. Skinner (26): 6264.30min, +31.47gsax, +0.30gsax/60
20. Demko (29): 4894.23min, +24.34gsax, +0.30gsax/60
21. Daccord (28): 3080.91min, +15.42gsax, +0.30gsax/60
22. Markstrom (34): 6241.95min, +30.43gsax, +0.29gsax/60
23. Kotchetkov (25): 3775.4min, +17.98gsax, +0.29gsax/60
24. Hill (28): 3459.72min, +15.33gsax, +0.27gsax/60
25. Vasilevskiy (30): 6659.29min, +25.17gsax, +0.23gsax/60
26. Binnington (31): 6807.53min, +23.29gsax, +0.21gsax/60
27. Oettinger (26): 6729.46min, +23.11gsax, +0.21gsax/60
28. Gustavsson (26): 4837.48min, +17.08gsax, +0.21gsax/60
29. Lyon (32): 3392.03min, +12.03gsax, +0.21gsax/60
30. Schmid (24): 1815.50min, +6.46gsax, +0.21gsax/60
31. Samsonov (27): 4776.57min, +15.49gsax, +0.20gsax/60
32. Lindgren (31): 4544.45min, +14.88gsax, +0.20gsax/60
33. Hart (26): 4618.95min, +14.87gsax, +0.19gsax/60
34. Blackwood (28): 3562.68min, +11.51gsax, +0.19gsax/60
35. Bobrovsky (36): 6247.88min, +18.68gsax, +0.18gsax/60
36. Talbot (37): 5063.12min, +15.31gsax, +0.18gsax/60
37. Mrazek (32): 5317.80min, +13.51gsax, +0.15gsax/60
38. Jarry (29): 5390.66min, +13.49gsax, +0.15gsax/60
39. Luukkonen (25): 4991.45min, +11.72gsax, +0.15gsax/60
40. Desmith (33): 3729.43min, +9.59gsax, +0.15gsax/60
41. Georgiev (28): 7338.28min, +17.08gsax, +0.14gsax/60
42. Kuemper (34): 5090.31min, +11.48gsax/60, +0.14gsax/60
43. Dostal (24): 3385.54min, +6.32gsax/60, +0.11gsax/60
44. Thompson (27): 4816.84min, +6.45gsax/60, +0.08gsax/60
45. Copley (32): 2525.75min, +3.10gsax/60, +0.07gsax/60
and as far as i can tell Brossoit hasn;t been especially sheltered in terms of quality of offensive teams he's facing.
1. Broissoit (31): 1987.06min, +24.34gsax, +0.74gsax/60
2. Ullmark (31): 5281.96min, +59.83gsax, +0.68gsax/60
3. Stolarz (30): 2326.50min, +23.93gsax, +0.62gsax/60
4. Hellebuyck (31): 7345.30min, +72.97gsax, +0.60gsax/60
5. Swayman (26): 4578.76min, +43.78gsax, +0.57gsax/60
6. Sorokin (29): 6913.05min, +59.81gsax, +0.52gsax/60
7. Woll (26): 1888.08min, +15.16gsax, +0.48gsax/60
8. Varlamov (36): 2929.41min, +22.14gsax, +0.45gsax/60
9. Montembault (28): 4762.18min, +35.17gsax, +0.44gsax/60
10. Saros (29): 7434.61min, +53.00gsax, +0.43gsax/60
11. Rittich (32): 2486.20min, +17.34gsax, +0.42gsax/60
12. Shesterkin (29): 6765.87min, +45.20gsax, +0.40gsax/60
13. Levi (23): 1723.92min, +11.61gsax, +0.40gsax/60
14. Andersen (35): 2897.23min, +18.42gsax, +0.38gsax/60
15. Lankinen (29): 2260.59min, +13.88gsax, +0.37gsax/60
16. Ingram (27): 4389.60min, +26.61gsax, +0.36gsax/60
17. Hofer (24): 1945.85min, +11.03gsax, +0.34gsax/60
18. Primeau (25): 1463.41min, +7.86gsax, +0.32gsax/60
19. Skinner (26): 6264.30min, +31.47gsax, +0.30gsax/60
20. Demko (29): 4894.23min, +24.34gsax, +0.30gsax/60
21. Daccord (28): 3080.91min, +15.42gsax, +0.30gsax/60
22. Markstrom (34): 6241.95min, +30.43gsax, +0.29gsax/60
23. Kotchetkov (25): 3775.4min, +17.98gsax, +0.29gsax/60
24. Hill (28): 3459.72min, +15.33gsax, +0.27gsax/60
25. Vasilevskiy (30): 6659.29min, +25.17gsax, +0.23gsax/60
26. Binnington (31): 6807.53min, +23.29gsax, +0.21gsax/60
27. Oettinger (26): 6729.46min, +23.11gsax, +0.21gsax/60
28. Gustavsson (26): 4837.48min, +17.08gsax, +0.21gsax/60
29. Lyon (32): 3392.03min, +12.03gsax, +0.21gsax/60
30. Schmid (24): 1815.50min, +6.46gsax, +0.21gsax/60
31. Samsonov (27): 4776.57min, +15.49gsax, +0.20gsax/60
32. Lindgren (31): 4544.45min, +14.88gsax, +0.20gsax/60
33. Hart (26): 4618.95min, +14.87gsax, +0.19gsax/60
34. Blackwood (28): 3562.68min, +11.51gsax, +0.19gsax/60
35. Bobrovsky (36): 6247.88min, +18.68gsax, +0.18gsax/60
36. Talbot (37): 5063.12min, +15.31gsax, +0.18gsax/60
37. Mrazek (32): 5317.80min, +13.51gsax, +0.15gsax/60
38. Jarry (29): 5390.66min, +13.49gsax, +0.15gsax/60
39. Luukkonen (25): 4991.45min, +11.72gsax, +0.15gsax/60
40. Desmith (33): 3729.43min, +9.59gsax, +0.15gsax/60
41. Georgiev (28): 7338.28min, +17.08gsax, +0.14gsax/60
42. Kuemper (34): 5090.31min, +11.48gsax/60, +0.14gsax/60
43. Dostal (24): 3385.54min, +6.32gsax/60, +0.11gsax/60
44. Thompson (27): 4816.84min, +6.45gsax/60, +0.08gsax/60
45. Copley (32): 2525.75min, +3.10gsax/60, +0.07gsax/60
and as far as i can tell Brossoit hasn;t been especially sheltered in terms of quality of offensive teams he's facing.
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hockeylover
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Wayward DP
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i.e. Sorokin. not Varlamov, he also has his own durability issues and is 36
Wayward DP
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they telegraphed this from day one and to the extent they've walked it back I think it's only to try to nudge the market more in their favour. but the market is on to them and we're gonna dump him for pennies on the dollar, has always been my position. would prefer we keep him.
Preston
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They could do much worse than Brossoit. The nightmare scenario is spending big $ on a goalie that sucks donkey cock. Or one that isn't necessarily any better than a guy that costs half the price. $3m for a guy that has proven to be exceptional in stretches is hardly a bad thing.
This at least gives them tremendous flexibility to build a juggernaut roster and go balls deep in acquiring a couple of top 4 d, especially if they trade Marner (which feels likely to me).
This at least gives them tremendous flexibility to build a juggernaut roster and go balls deep in acquiring a couple of top 4 d, especially if they trade Marner (which feels likely to me).
zeke
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expensive, durable shit is still shit.
LeafOfFaith
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So then Mitch says I'll take 8 months from now and you get to watch me walk as a UFA.
This is a great tactic for a shit player on an expiring contract, but the Leafs have no leverage against an awesome player who'll be able to choose wherever he wants to sign with shortly.
LeafOfFaith
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Yeah, but I'd go for the surer thing in Talbot maybe, even if Brossoit has the upside.
Wayward DP
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would rather have shit available during crunch time than nothing
Wayward DP
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how many goalies have gone from career backups to even league average starters on the wrong side of 30? serious question.
if there are other examples in the past then you could maybe convince me Brossoit was a worthwhile investment...
if there are other examples in the past then you could maybe convince me Brossoit was a worthwhile investment...
Preston
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Talbot's got age and a lot of miles on him. But they're all risks unless you get a Shesty. So just get a cheap guy and load your roster with talent. I'm surprised that so many folks have the appetite to spend big money on a goalie that you don't even know for sure will perform at an elite level. It's just poor value.
hockeylover
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I disagree that Mitch won't waive at all.
I'd prefer Treliving wasn't the one trading him but here we are.
I'd prefer Treliving wasn't the one trading him but here we are.
axlsalinger
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With Woll and Hildeby, we don't necessarily need a "long-term" solution. Ullmark/Saros would be great, of course, but would also cost a lot of money and assets.
I would put Stolarz & Brossoit in a very similar bucket, it's kind of disingenuous to argue one would be perfect and the other a non-starter. They both have good numbers.
Not opposed to Talbot or even Markstrom, the idea is sound but Cam Talbot is going to turn 37 in July. He could just as easily lose his game or get hurt as any of these other guys, and is actually more likely to do so at that age.
Wayward DP
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eh I suspect less than most of us think
LeafOfFaith
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That’s part of the reason I’d be okay with Talbot, that he’ll be cheap too. If not, then forget it. I’ll always go for the cheaper goalie, even if less durable. Our real goalie remedy is through the draft anyway, everything else is a bandaid.