Core 4 No More: The Motherfucking Off-Season Thread

[Artnes]

Chief wont have time for that nonsense

 

[hockeylover]

I think I'd probably consider it tbh.

 

[axlsalinger]

View: https://x.com/JFreshHockey/status/1801006384248389980

 

[worm]

A dman who has topped out at 55 games the last two seasons (less than 55 games in 3 of the last 4 years) and who was a zero in the playoffs, and an undrafted 27 year old goalie asshole who hasn't started more than 42 games in his limited NHL experience?

That's pretty fucking bad.

Though it'd make sense since Vegas always swoops in to grab the next great player that stupidly gets made available and steals him away.

Trading away marner isn't going to be a trade you win.

Theodore has been hurt the last 2 years. Has been healthy every other year (don't hold he shortened covid season against him).

Not getting a number 1 dman for Marner.

 

[zeke]

as for the PP, Hanifin replaced Theodore on the #1 PP pretty much right away I think.

 

[Artnes]

jfraud

 

[MyNameIsJonas]

If you get Theodore and a pair of RHD top 4 FA D to put beside Rielly and Theodore, then in theory you have a very very good top 4 D

 

[zeke]

I feel like Theodore is most likely the exact same as Mo. He's just been better insulated.

 

[axlsalinger]

Dom Market Value = $11.4M

 

[zeke]

McCabe is a quality top-4 dman too. Probably top-3 quality.

 

[The Green Hornet]

you can build one hell of a blue line of you do the theodore package for marner and sign roy and walker or carrier

 

[MyNameIsJonas]

you can build one hell of a blue line of you do the theodore package for marner and sign roy and walker or carrier

Theodore-Roy
Rielly-McCabe

Is good enough to where it almost doesn't matter what your third pair is. You can have cross check mctree and a sheltered kid and be fine

 

[leafman101]

Or you could keep Marner and sign Montour and Roy.

 

[Artnes]

Damage is done now. Too much juice out there for this not to be the end

 

[leafman101]

Though if you trade Marner for a top pair d and #1 goalie that make $6 mill combined you can probably afford Guentzel or Reinhart.

 

[MindzEye]

Guentzel would be a nice consolation prize, fer sure.

 

[trujaysfan]

Rielly, Theodore, McCabe, Lilly, Benoit and a UFA

Rielly - Mccabe/UFA
Theodore -McCabe/UFA
Benoit- Lilly

 

[zeke]

Thompson's not a legit #1 tho.

last 2yrs, VGK and TOR goalies

VGK Brossoit 11gms, +0.62gsax/60
TOR Woll 32gms, +0.48gsax/60
VGK Hill 62gms, +0.27gsax/60
TOR Jones 22gms, +0.22gsax/60
TOR Samsonov 82gms, +0.20gsax/60
VGK Quick 10gms, +0.18gsax/60
VGK Thompson 83gms, +0.08gsax/60
VGK Patera 8gms, -0.05gsax/60
TOR Murray 26gms, -0.05gsax/60
TOR Kallgren 10gms, -0.06gsax/60


Playoffs

VGK Thompson 4gms, +1.65gsax/60
TOR Woll 7gms, +1.29gsax/60
VGK Hill 19gms, +0.91gsax/60
VGK Brossoit 8gms, -0.13gsax/60
TOR Samsonov 14gms, -0.13gsax/60

 

[axlsalinger]

Thompson's not a legit #1 tho.

Would be great 1A/1B match with Woll, though.

 

[MindzEye]

Thompson's not a legit #1 tho.

last 2yrs, VGK and TOR goalies

VGK Brossoit 11gms, +0.62gsax/60
TOR Woll 32gms, +0.48gsax/60
VGK Hill 62gms, +0.27gsax/60
TOR Jones 22gms, +0.22gsax/60
TOR Samsonov 82gms, +0.20gsax/60
VGK Quick 10gms, +0.18gsax/60
VGK Thompson 83gms, +0.08gsax/60
VGK Patera 8gms, -0.05gsax/60
TOR Murray 26gms, -0.05gsax/60
TOR Kallgren 10gms, -0.06gsax/60


Playoffs

VGK Thompson 4gms, +1.65gsax/60
TOR Woll 7gms, +1.29gsax/60
VGK Hill 19gms, +0.91gsax/60
VGK Brossoit 8gms, -0.13gsax/60
TOR Samsonov 14gms, -0.13gsax/60

Gsax is broken if a goalie with a .912 over the last 2 years combined is that far behind a goalie with a .905 combined.