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GDT Game 34: @ Dallas, Friday, December 23, 8:00 PM EST

It’s a bit contradictory, but Monahan’s absence underlines his value/importance. Durability is the issue. If he’s healthy, he nets the Habs a first, maybe in 2024. That’s a big if.

Edmundson has value if a playoff team needs a decent 5-6 guy for a long run.

Dvorak and Anderson have value, but there’s no rush.

The duds offer cap relief once their contracts expire.
 
wiseguy1 said:
I dont mind when they play hard and lose, but playing stupid and losing is a waste of my time.
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It is a rebuild year. My point is you either understand that and expect games like last night or just don’t watch. There will be plenty more this season.
 
Just watched the oilers and nucks. I’m not so certain that missing the playoffs to get good draft picks is the best way forward.
I’d rather a healthy and competitive team that knows how to win.
Ideally the Habs squeak in and the Fla pick is top ten.
 
Stinky said:
Just watched the oilers and nucks. I’m not so certain that missing the playoffs to get good draft picks is the best way forward.
I’d rather a healthy and competitive team that knows how to win.
Ideally the Habs squeak in and the Fla pick is top ten.
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need good draft picks to be competitive first
 
Stinky said:
Just watched the oilers and nucks. I’m not so certain that missing the playoffs to get good draft picks is the best way forward.
I’d rather a healthy and competitive team that knows how to win.
Ideally the Habs squeak in and the Fla pick is top ten.
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Hmm this is a difficult one. In this case I would recommend

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Stinky said:
You losers can call for a tank job.
I want them to win.
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What you fail to realize is you weren’t winning. Sometimes you need to take a step back to move forward.

We all want to win, we just know it’s not going to happen with what was the status quo.
 
Habsy said:
We don't miss any of them. They make us a mushy middle team.

I have always been a Monahan fan and know his worth but right now he's worth more up in the box long term. He will need to get back on the ice to be traded though.
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It good for the draft but I’m not sure how good it is for the development of our players. Suzuki/Caufield have been struggling since Monahan went down. The whole second line has been a revolving door. Slaf is struggling. Our young defense are getting peppered every night. A young team needs good vets to progress.
 
GrandWazoo said:
It good for the draft but I’m not sure how good it is for the development of our players. Suzuki/Caufield have been struggling since Monahan went down. The whole second line has been a revolving door. Slaf is struggling. Our young defense are getting peppered every night. A young team needs good vets to progress.
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I don't subscribe to that last part. Players need to know what its like to succeed and fail both. They had a cup run which helped the win part. Now they're learning how hard it actually is to win a cup.

They know there are dead men skating on the Habs. The players aren't wilting flowers except 27. Bringing in more elite talent will be what helps 14 & 22. Fluking into wins isn't a great long-term strategy.

In the business world you would look at the KPIs and the Habs don't have very good numbers.
 
When I’m actually watching them play I can’t be hoping they lose. Only a moron would invest time to watch and hope for a loss. But when I’m not watching . . .
 
Habsy said:
What you fail to realize is you weren’t winning. Sometimes you need to take a step back to move forward.

We all want to win, we just know it’s not going to happen with what was the status quo.
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Bah! Bring back money hands and this team has a fighting chance. Let Fla suck. I want them to lose so bad that we win the lottery with their pick and get third overall.
 
Krustchev said:
When I’m actually watching them play I can’t be hoping they lose. Only a moron would invest time to watch and hope for a loss. But when I’m not watching . . .
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I don't think anyone outside of the Brad/Geeman/Wehave trifecta actually watches the games for a loss.

People watch the game hoping to be entertained and see progress in the youth but don't lament the losses when they happen. I think that describes most people.
 
GrandWazoo said:
It good for the draft but I’m not sure how good it is for the development of our players. Suzuki/Caufield have been struggling since Monahan went down. The whole second line has been a revolving door. Slaf is struggling. Our young defense are getting peppered every night. A young team needs good vets to progress.
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We need Moneyhands. He is a great mentor to the captain.
 
Stinky said:
Bah! Bring back money hands and this team has a fighting chance. Let Fla suck. I want them to lose so bad that we win the lottery with their pick and get third overall.
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I can see the argument, he’s definitely had a beneficial impact. The problem is his durability, especially if we want to flip him later in the event of an extension.

The duds and overagers (Anderson, Dvorak) however, can go.

If a player can’t support or fit into the Suzuki-Caufield-Guhle core, they can go.
 
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