GDT Game 34: @ Dallas, Friday, December 23, 8:00 PM EST

[lecoqsportif]

I would also argue that we are in a better position than the Oilers (apart from McJesus, of course) because of the prospects on D.

 

[Habsy]

Guhle for McDavid

 

[lecoqsportif]

If Monahan was the only high ticket contract on a depreciating player I would do it. Unfortunately he isn't.

Yah, I get Stinky’s argument - there’s merit to it. But I would still move Monahan.

 

[Stinky]

Yah, I get Stinky’s argument - there’s merit to it. But I would still move Monahan.

Id rather move some of the bulkier contracts from the old regime for less return.

 

[Habsy]

Id rather move some of the bulkier contracts from the old regime for less return.

He is implying those will be moved anyway.

 

[Habsy]

Yah, I get Stinky’s argument - there’s merit to it. But I would still move Monahan.

I want to keep Monahan too, I just understand the environment. I would rather dump the other dead wood and retain Moneyhands.

 

[GEEMAN]

It good for the draft but I’m not sure how good it is for the development of our players. Suzuki/Caufield have been struggling since Monahan went down. The whole second line has been a revolving door. Slaf is struggling. Our young defense are getting peppered every night. A young team needs good vets to progress.

A good young team with proper skill needs good vets to progress

We simply need vet fillers as the youth mature , not albatross contracts

Mony is fine on a 2 year term , fuck it if its more .

Team has too many shit contracts and getting max trade value is more important than keeping him

 

[GEEMAN]

I don't think anyone outside of the Brad/Geeman/Wehave trifecta actually watches the games for a loss.

People watch the game hoping to be entertained and see progress in the youth but don't lament the losses when they happen. I think that describes most people.

The games have been exciting

As mentioned before priority one is player development

Team has 7 players 23 and under worth keeping , couldnt say that last year .

All about the big picture , right now our 23 man puzzle is missing more than a dozen pieces

We want to win but enough of this crap of the past , Hugo is slowly building the right core

 

[GrandWazoo]

I don't subscribe to that last part. Players need to know what its like to succeed and fail both. They had a cup run which helped the win part. Now they're learning how hard it actually is to win a cup.

They know there are dead men skating on the Habs. The players aren't wilting flowers except 27. Bringing in more elite talent will be what helps 14 & 22. Fluking into wins isn't a great long-term strategy.

In the business world you would look at the KPIs and the Habs don't have very good numbers.

i don’t buy the first part. There is nothing good for the players on the team to be overwhelmed each games.

 

[Habsy]

They understand what's going on

 

[TheCountofMonteCristo]

need good draft picks to be competitive first

I think he means the Oilers are still shit

 

[GEEMAN]

I think he means the Oilers are still shit

So what , I will take my chances with 2 top players in the world as my base

 

[Sal_Butera]

They understand what's going on

It’s overwhelming for young players who are used to always playing for the win to get caught up in that culture - Sabres, Oilers, Yotes ends up being the end result

 

[CH1]

Just watched the oilers and nucks. I’m not so certain that missing the playoffs to get good draft picks is the best way forward.
I’d rather a healthy and competitive team that knows how to win.
Ideally the Habs squeak in and the Fla pick is top ten.

you need to see someone about this

 

[Stinky]

It’s overwhelming for young players who are used to always playing for the win to get caught up in that culture - Sabres, Oilers, Yotes ends up being the end result

B I N G O

 

[Stinky]

Culture matters.
I hope they make the playoffs

I hope the Fla pick is higher than our own.
That to me is success.

 

[CH1]

It’s overwhelming for young players who are used to always playing for the win to get caught up in that culture - Sabres, Oilers, Yotes ends up being the end result

those teams are (or were) badly managed -- culture comes from up top

Gotta trust our head honchos to get it right

 

[Sal_Butera]

those teams are (or were) badly managed -- culture comes from up top

Gotta trust our head honchos to get it right

GMs / management don’t lace up the skates, practice & party w the boys.

Strategic culture comes from up top, day-to-day executional culture comes from within the room.

In Boston, Gorton was known as being soft & lacking leadership acumen (per beat writer Kevin Paul DuPont), which is why Bruins went outside the org to hire management in Chia-pet something the Bs org NEVER does historically - Art Ross was the only GM to not be a Bruin, and he joined as the Bruins joined the NHL back in the 1920s. Lynn Patrick, Milt Schmidt, Sinden, O’Connell, Sweeney were all former players or coaches in Sinden case

Coke head Dolan also viewed Gorton as soft (per Brooksie) & had Sather can him at first opportunity.

So no we ”don’t gotta trust” as Gorton’s record in drafting & management is pretty mediocre

 

[CH1]

GMs / management don’t lace up the skates, practice & party w the boys.

No, but they figure out which players will spoil the bunch and get rid of them

 

[TheCountofMonteCristo]

So what , I will take my chances with 2 top players in the world as my base

so what? it means your plan to make the 2nd rd by 2030 could mean we are still shit in 2035