Habs Season Thread: 2024-25 Regular Season

[GrandWazoo]

Besides Dietz, I thought Beaulieu, Leblanc, De La Rose and Bournival were mismanaged. It's not all Lefebvre fault either, some of those were rushed and subjected to the yoyo treatment that thwarted their development.

I think it's telling that the only successful prospects during that period were those avoiding the AHL, like Gallagher (about 30 games) and Lehkonen.

 

[Habsy]

 

[Habsy]

Taking Churla's place

 

[GGpX]

Besides Dietz, I thought Beaulieu, Leblanc, De La Rose and Bournival were mismanaged. It's not all Lefebvre fault either, some of those were rushed and subjected to the yoyo treatment that thwarted their development.

I think it's telling that the only successful prospects during that period were those avoiding the AHL, like Gallagher (about 30 games) and Lehkonen.

I have a long-standing theory about Louis Leblanc and I'm not sure any coach could have fixed him. Leblanc's a player that purposely took every step to be the big fish in a little pond. Was the best midget prospect in Quebec at his age, chose to stay in Midget while players his age went to the Q so that he could keep his NCAA eligibility. He chose to to go Harvard, which will never be known as a hockey hotbed (despite improving since then), only to go back to the Q as a 20 year old. The second the rubber hit the road and things weren't smooth sailing, he fell apart. I (probably wrongly) defended Lefebvre's usage of him in the AHL because my mindset is, if you can't shutdown the opposing team's top lines in the minors, you have no shot in the NHL. Leblanc did everything he ever could to avoid adversity and when it hit him, he crumbled.

De La Rose, meh. Who knows, I doubt it. Never had any offensive talent when we drafted him.

Bournival's career got wrecked by concussions more than bad development.

 

[CH1]

Let's not forget Sebastian Collberg, the zero scoring steal of the draft.

 

[Habsy]

 

[Sal_Butera]

Let's not forget Sebastian Collberg, the zero scoring steal of the draft.

Where Josef Balej...recall the “outrage” when Gainey dared trade the star in making for Kovalev?

 

[GrandWazoo]

I have a long-standing theory about Louis Leblanc and I'm not sure any coach could have fixed him. Leblanc's a player that purposely took every step to be the big fish in a little pond. Was the best midget prospect in Quebec at his age, chose to stay in Midget while players his age went to the Q so that he could keep his NCAA eligibility. He chose to to go Harvard, which will never be known as a hockey hotbed (despite improving since then), only to go back to the Q as a 20 year old. The second the rubber hit the road and things weren't smooth sailing, he fell apart. I (probably wrongly) defended Lefebvre's usage of him in the AHL because my mindset is, if you can't shutdown the opposing team's top lines in the minors, you have no shot in the NHL. Leblanc did everything he ever could to avoid adversity and when it hit him, he crumbled.

De La Rose, meh. Who knows, I doubt it. Never had any offensive talent when we drafted him.

Bournival's career got wrecked by concussions more than bad development.

There is probably some truth to it but Leblanc looked decent the first year in the NHL and suddenly the next year could barely score a goal in the AHL, I never quite seen anything like it.

De La Rose never had an ounce of offense in his game but his defensive game was mature beyond his years and should have been able to establish himself as a premier shutdown forward in the league, not a borderline journeyman. What was the point of rushing him to the NHL at 19??

 

[GGpX]

There is probably some truth to it but Leblanc looked decent the first year in the NHL and suddenly the next year could barely score a goal in the AHL, I never quite seen anything like it.

De La Rose never had an ounce of offense in his game but his defensive game was mature beyond his years and should have been able to establish himself as a premier shutdown forward in the league, not a borderline journeyman. What was the point of rushing him to the NHL at 19??

 

[Sal_Butera]

Paul Byron voit des ressemblances entre Jake Evans et Phillip Danault

Paul Byron en a vu de toutes les couleurs depuis son arrivée à Montréal en 2015.

www.danslescoulisses.com

Another good game by Evans last night, if this keeps up..in another 15-20GP, might be time to consider looking at what Danault can bring in via trade and in parallel explore what Ana is looking for in return for Getzlaf (who’s UFA) for a playoff push, and whether he’d waive his NMC for 2-3 months of Mtl w Perry, Weber, Price all here.

Might a C deficient org like up & coming NYR be willing to part with a couple of young NHL ready prospects for Danault? At 28 he’d slot right in with Panarin & Zibenijhad as young vets and most importantly their 2C

I’d assume Ana would be looking for a 1st + prospect?

Idea being Getzlaf would bring experience to shore up top-3C roles - Suzuki, KK & Getzlaf w Evans as 4C and moving up to 3C next season. Assumes continued progression this season of all 3-young Cs

 

[Habsy]

Getzlaf’s cap hit is prohibitive.

He likely would waive for a chance at a cup though.

 

[GEEMAN]

Another good game by Evans last night, if this keeps up..in another 15-20GP, might be time to consider looking at what Danault can bring in via trade and in parallel explore what Ana is looking for in return for Getzlaf (who’s UFA) for a playoff push, and whether he’d waive his NMC for 2-3 months of Mtl w Perry, Weber, Price all here.

Might a C deficient org like up & coming NYR be willing to part with a couple of young NHL ready prospects for Danault? At 28 he’d slot right in with Panarin & Zibenijhad as young vets and most importantly their 2C

I’d assume Ana would be looking for a 1st + prospect?

Idea being Getzlaf would bring experience to shore up top-3C roles - Suzuki, KK & Getzlaf w Evans as 4C and moving up to 3C next season. Assumes continued progression this season of all 3-young Cs

Dano in NYR would be a solid fit , exactly what they need

 

[Habsy]

They wouldn’t give up much for him though. Need a solid center prospect back at minimum.

 

[Sal_Butera]

They wouldn’t give up much for him though. Need a solid center prospect back at minimum.

Why - Poehling's a natural C? I’d want one of the NYR prospects on W

 

[Habsy]

Why - Poehling's a natural C? I’d want one of the NYR prospects on W

He’s not blowing doors off. Bouchard thinks Evans has more upside.

 

[Habsy]

What W do you think they’d give up for Danault? Nobody noteworthy I think.

 

[Sal_Butera]

He’s not blowing doors off. Bouchard thinks Evans has more upside.

Which is fine, I’m starting to think Evans might nicely slot in as 3C, then Poehling takes 4C

 

[Sal_Butera]

What W do you think they’d give up for Danault? Nobody noteworthy I think.

I don’t have a feel for what Danault’s market value is? NYR desperately need a 2C to try to make a playoff push, and even going forward.

 

[GEEMAN]

Where Josef Balej...recall the “outrage” when Gainey dared trade the star in making for Kovalev?

Good one , or Vladimir Vujtek

Cant remember his junior coach , says he could be a 100 point player in the NHL

 

[Habsy]