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Ivan Demidov - Montreal Canadien

WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
None of that matters to the people who obsess over this issue. When those people whine about not having enough Quebec born players on the Habs, they aren't talking about having more Mike Matheson's or Marco Scandella's. They want Jean-Guy Pepsi from Pointe au Pic, un vrai ti-gars, pur laine de souche. They don't give a fuck if you can speak French, they only care that you are French. If you aren't, then you being on the team doesn't count. You may as well be a unilingual Anglo from Westmount for all they care.

Wanting more players who can speak French on a team based in a city where people are predominantly French speaking is both laudable and desirable. But demanding that your team give roster spots to players simply because they can can trace their ancestry back to Les Filles du Roi (something that, unlike learning how to speak a language, is beyond anyone's control) is just plain ol' bigotry.

So while drafting Hage in part because he is bilingual should be a feather in the Habs' cap, they will be given zero credit for it by the people who have agendas. Fortunately, the Habs front office no longer kow-tows to these people, or any fan, for that matter. They know how to pursue a "fuck the fans" agenda in either language and they don't care what anyone thinks about it.
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I don't think the team cares about the extremists. Nor do I for that matter. They're the minority anyway. People will always find a reason to be miserably whiners. However, it makes for a nice story for the average Quebecer who aren't extreme, but like the fact the kid can speak French very well. It makes for good marketing to the large French-speaking fanbase. Nothing wrong with that.
 
Habsy said:
Word I got from connections was once the father turned up dead Molson wanted nothing to do with the situation whatsoever. Probably a bad hockey decision but as we all know it's never just about hockey, it's about sponsors, money, politics etc. Shouldn't be but it is.

So our consortium nixed it. It wasn't the Russian factor, it was all the smoke.
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How much do you trust this info and this source? Reason I ask, is that at the time, I read actual Russian (FWIW) local news reports, translated, that said he had known heart issues, was a heavy smoker and drinker (common in Russia), and that they suspected it was a heart attack that led to him drowning.

Avg age of death of Russian men even before the war, is one of the lowest in the developed world. So him dying for due to health issues isn't unusual. The "lake" he was found in is a manmade lake/park right near the apartment he lived at. And apparently, he went for a smoke, got sick, fell into the edge of lake and drowned. But if you have solid inside info that says otherwise, I wouldn't doubt it either.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
Sure, except for the fact that my ancestry actually does trace all the way back to Les Filles du Roi so I'm "immunized", as Aaron Rodgers would say, against charges of prejudice. But since your ancestry only traces back to a souvlaki stand next to the Acropolis, you are obliged to tread more lightly around the subject than I.

What I said is 100% true. I know this because I have actual blood relatives who think that way. I may be a fuck but I'm not a prejudiced fuck nor an uninformed fuck. I know whereof I speak.
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Sorry but you can’t give yourself immunity, it doesn’t work like that. Ancestry is not a license to be a dick, especially not towards a cultural group. I don’t think you fully read the rule book.
 
FlyGuy said:
I wonder what changed with habs drafting strategy to pass on Michkov but take Demidov.

And no, all of Mccagg's propaganda and whispers of red flags are not true.
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Courtesy of The Athletic:

When Kent Hughes mentioned Friday night that the Canadiens had Demidov on their radar last year when they took David Reinbacher at No. 5 instead of a forward, that was only part of the story. Bobrov’s father, Sergei, has been a scout for SKA Saint Petersburg for 15 years. He had insight on Matvei Michkov most other teams did not have, and he also had insight on Demidov.

He’s been on the Canadiens’ radar for far longer than one year.

“We’ve known Ivan for a number of years now because of my dad’s position and knowing young players in that organization is a big part of his job,” Bobrov said. “So we knew the kid, the family really well. I was fortunate enough to get there a couple of times and spend time with him and his family. We felt that we might have a chance at him, but not a significant one. It worked out, and clearly he was very happy to end up in Montreal. His family was looking forward to that.

“Part of the reason he wanted to be in Montreal was because he loves pressure. He embraces pressure and thrives on it. Sometimes we ask kids whether or not they will be OK playing in this city. He was begging for it. So that’s a good sign.”

That last part is the kicker. Demidov embracing pressure is a big part of what the Canadiens look for.

“His ceiling is as high as some of the best players in the league,” Bobrov said. “And he expects nothing less than that from himself, which is the most important part.”
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WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
Sure, except for the fact that my ancestry actually does trace all the way back to Les Filles du Roi so I'm "immunized", as Aaron Rodgers would say, against charges of prejudice. But since your ancestry only traces back to a souvlaki stand next to the Acropolis, you are obliged to tread more lightly around the subject than I.

What I said is 100% true. I know this because I have actual blood relatives who think that way. I may be a fuck but I'm not a prejudiced fuck nor an uninformed fuck. I know whereof I speak.
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Ancestry means nothing in prejudice. You look Archie Bunker stupid constantly trying this. “My ancestry is French so I can say whatever”. Nope. You’re an idiot. I have no issue believing your bigoted relatives are too. Dumb breeds dumb.

And you’ve no idea of my ancestry.
 
BTW.......Krusty.....who you got for Wimbledon....

I don't care what everyone says, i fu**ing hope Medvedev wins it....i love his nuclear personality....reminds me of Safin (one of my favourite players)
 
Islanders are the perfect example of a team stuck in the middle...they are too good to tank, but not quite good enough to win it all.....

They made two straight ECF.....that was their chance.....now back to being in the middle again

Dallas Stars are like that also
 
he does have the easier path to the finals.....

he's probably hoping Med and Alca beat themselves in a 4-hour 5-set'er

this might be Novak's last chance at a Major Title....just saying
 
Rolex said:
he does have the easier path to the finals.....

he's probably hoping Med and Alca beat themselves in a 4-hour 5-set'er

this might be Novak's last chance at a Major Title....just saying
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I doubt it’s his last chance at a major.
 
Rolex said:
Islanders are the perfect example of a team stuck in the middle...they are too good to tank, but not quite good enough to win it all.....

They made two straight ECF.....that was their chance.....now back to being in the middle again

Dallas Stars are like that also
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Disagree on Dallas

Regime has done a great job drafting and retooling on the fly and still a contender

Isles are truly a dreaded middle team spinning its wheels

As Seguin and Benn are now secondary players they have Ottinger/Heiskenen/ Harley/ Robertson/Stankoven/Johnston/Hintz as the core

Incredible job with only one high pick , better than most cores in the league and plenty of runway left with youth
 
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