And yet . . . the Hawks said "no" to Demidov.
Ivan Demidov - Montreal Canadien
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And yet . . . the Hawks said "no" to Demidov.
LesCanadiens
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LesCanadiens
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Thank god they made a massive mistake (IMO). There are a couple of very well done video breakdowns/analysis of Levshunov's play. I see a total trainwreck. Really poor decision-making. High-risk defensively. Low compete and lazy defensively. But watch, he'll turn into the next Bobby Orr now that I've raked him over the coals, haha. But truly, based on what I saw...Reinbacher will wind-up a better defenseman, IMO.
Levshunov is going to be a 200 foot beast top pair D , a Seebrook type
LesCanadiens
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That's what the hype says, sure. But I highly doubt that. Here's a great analysis. The vids don't lie. I think he's vastly overrated.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnEGxPQ_ffQ&t=216s
dude dominated the NCAA , he will be fine
LesCanadiens
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Watch the video and get back to me. NCAA vs NHL is obviously apples and oranges. If you watch this and still think he's a stud. Then we can agree to disagree. He has to make a seismic shift between his ears to be anywhere close to a "200 foot beast top pair D". Seabrook was fantastic defensively. This guy is not, at least at this point.
I dont care about videos
I remember moons ago my scout buddy mentioned that Richer wouldnt amount to shit with his sloppy defensive game in junior
He has the complete tool box , with proper coaching he will be a solid D with top pair ceiling
LesCanadiens
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Fair enough. So if you aren't watching videos of his play or watching him live, what are you basing your opinion on? Of course scouts get it wrong all the time. It's not a perfect science. Guess time will tell. I'm just saying based on all the video, including full shift-by-shift videos, I've seen of him, I got the same feeling I had watching Wright in his draft year. IE, WTF is he rated so highly for?
And his offensive stats need context. 9 goals, yes. But 3 EN goals and some shots that had no business going in. And lots of secondary assists. I'm not saying he doesn't have top-pair ceiling. But so does Yakemchuk. I'm saying the 2nd overall hype that he's had all year, I just don't see based on what I've seen. I think Silayev will eventually be the very best D-man in this draft. Him and Buium. If ever there was a project (which I think Levshunov is), I believe Yakemchuk will have the best chance due to his super high compete level and elite crease-clearing abilities.
There are almost no players that you couldn't make a video of their worst moments and make them look terrible. Obviously there are problems with only watching the best moments as well... But I'll trust highlights that confirm the numbers over lowlights that contradict the numbers and general consensus.
LesCanadiens
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It's Ok. We can all have different opinions. That's what forums are for and it would be boring as hell otherwise. But for the record, I didn't form my opinion on only viewing his bad moments. He's extremely skilled. Is a fantastic skater. But I question his IQ, his defense, and his effort-level.
The roughly around 7 full game shift-by-shift videos that I watched gave me that impression. But for the sake of posting on a board like this it makes no sense to post a 30 minute shift-by-shift video. Nobody will watch it. Thus I chose this one from a respected US prospect focused scout, a condensed critique. It was commonly said that he can be a trainwreck in his own zone. Now only time will tell. Cheers.
For sure. To be clear... I don't have an opinion on him. I knew he wasn't a guy we were taking so I did zero research on him.
Yeah, that was an “odd” reference/comparable to say the least.
I’ve seen him play twice, so tiny sample size, but I was not overly impressed. But he clearly projects very well by the professional scouts.
Seebrook is the perfect #2 horse , teams would be happy with that at 2 for 10-15 years
worm
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I'd have higher hopes at number 2 than seabs
Sure but how many teams have that McDonough/Seebrook/Ekholm stud in the top pair for 15 years
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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The Hawks won Cups because of Kane and Toews, not because of Seabrook and Keith. Unless you've got another Bobby Orr you don't spend a top 3 pick on a defenseman or a goalie.
GrandWazoo
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I'm not sure the Hawks wins any Cup without Keith/Seabrook on the backend, Keith mostly obviously.